How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[CrimsonTider]

Wait, you're saying the anti-Amazon arguments are being pushed by fortunate and privileged people? Amazon is like smoking, it may provide certain short-term benefits to those employed (often not even the case, $15/hour and the benefits you get with most Amazon jobs isn't a privilege, it's the bare minimum), but long term it's giving our society cancer. And the anti-Amazon arguments from Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and the workers trying to unionize aren't just random internet shytposting, they're well thought out critiques of monopolistic predation on our society and economy. No one is proposing nuking Amazon and leaving the employees in the dirt, they're proposing breaking the company up in accordance with the anti-monopoly laws, unionizing the workforce and closing the tax loopholes that allow them to pilfer the public coffers while putting nothing back in. Currently, working in an Amazon factor isn't a path to the middle class, as Obama previously said. The company is an impediment to the middle class, like Joe Biden said. Amazon got their employees pissing and shytting in bottles. And now Obama's former Press Secretary is Amazon's head PR guy. Small world.

A good job at a company engaged in illegal and unethical business practices that are destabilizing our democracy isn't really a good job. It's a bad job that pays well.

The Truth about Amazon and Job Creation

Did you not see the tweet I responded too? No one is saying Amazon doesn’t need better regulation and that the employees don’t need representation.

but to argue that Amazon is not providing gainful employment for a lot of people is ludicrous and to use what Obama said as an angle to attack his record is silly

 

[King Kreole]

Did you not see the tweet I responded too? No one is saying Amazon doesn’t need better regulation and that the employees don’t need representation.

Amazon is. And they're in a position of credibility to do so because they were extolled as a righteous company by our previous political leadership, exemplified by Obama's laudatory statements about the company and his Press Secretary currently working as their head PR guy laundering those claims.

but to argue that Amazon is not providing gainful employment for a lot of people is ludicrous and to use what Obama said as an angle to attack his record is silly

I haven't made the bizarre argument - nor have I seen any anti-Amazon critiques make the argument - that the company is not employing people. The argument is that they are structurally engaged in illegal monopolistic practices, abusing the loopholes in the tax system to avoid paying their fair share, and creating a workplace hostile to unionization and basic decency. Using the President's public statements to assess his record isn't silly, that was the basis for the majority of the criticisms of Trump. Anyway, Obama's record on this issue is actually worse than his words, so I was actually going easy on him. Obama was asleep at the wheel, whereas Joe seems to have woken up. That's a good thing! That's progress and learning from past fukkups. We can't do that if we're too blinded by Obama hero worship to acknowledge his failure.

 

[Fctftl]

Sarah Honey Boo Boo

 

[Conan]

Obama hero worship

A lot of that in here to be honest.

 

[Fctftl]

A lot of that in here to be honest.

I think part of it is his presidency is sandwiched between Dubya n Donald.

 

[dtownreppin214]

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

...and America isn't ready for a gay President.

Fruits easily get in their feelings.

 

[Althalucian]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

this means nothing

the electoral college stumps all of this

we've known this for like 20 years.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

People who want Voter IDs are against vaccine passports

 

[dtownreppin214]

this means nothing

the electoral college stumps all of this

we've known this for like 20 years.

I did not know Democrats only run in presidential races.

 

[Corny Batman]

 

[AquaCityBoy]

People who want Voter IDs are against vaccine passports

People who said, "Corporations are people too," now want corporations to shut the fucc up and just give them money.

People who hate cancel culture want to cancel the MLB and NCAA.

People who voted against the stimulus brag about all the benefits of it.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

WaPo in 2021

He actually has somewhat of a point, but not for the reasons the article implies. But because an article like this even exists.

The supposedly 'liberal' media has done its hardest to buy into right wing framing and portray the Republicans as the protagonists. The stimulus passing without any Republican votes isn't looked at as a failure on their part to meet the needs of the people, even though a majority of their own voters supported it. Instead it's been framed as a broken promise by Biden, because he failed to 'reach across the aisle' and secure any Republican votes.

The media is already running with the narrative of "The economy is coming back just fine. We don't really need a $2T+ infrastructure package. It's just going to 'overheat' the economy." That already gives the Republicans plenty of cover to throw out a pitiful $300B bill. And if the Dems move ahead on reconciliation, it'll be framed as another 'broken promise' by Biden: "Oh, he said he wanted bipartisanship, but then he just did what he wanted anyway."

Republicans are already better at messaging, so people will buy it even though the Rethuglicans will do and have done worse in the same position.