How many of y’all believe in god

[Diondon]

Absolutely

 

[Who Not How]

Any Black man with his original mind would have no doubt there is a creator.

 

[SNG]

No.

That shyt is retarded, and I can't believe religion still has the hold that it has on the world. Just goes to show how fukking stupid most people are.

Religion is the man made aspect to god. If you take away religion and just look at the energy of life and spirit how can you not believe there is a higher power to things just by energy in itself.

It doesn’t even have to be called god.

 

[SNG]

It's a finniky topic. The existence of God is a matter of belief, faith, and personal perspective. Different people hold different views on this topic, and there is no single answer that can be universally accepted. Some people believe in the existence of God, while others do not. Still, others may believe in a higher power but not necessarily in the traditional sense of a deity. Ultimately, the answer to this question depends on an individual's beliefs, values, and experiences.

And this is because we are all different souls and we all come to experience this source energy in different perspectives in how it connects to our soul in our current life. You might have been more religious in a previous life to understand this energy and in this life not as because you may experience it more on an energy and more spiritual level to connect or go through trial and error in your life and experiencing it that way.

 

[Fillerguy]

I don't see how the space-time continuum would exist at all without being formed by something/someone that can exist outside of space and time. Why is material reality even here? Why would there even be physical dimensions or matter within which anything else can occur? Something existing outside of spacetime can naturally be eternal (by its very definition), but material reality has to be created by something and is on a time continuum that you have to trace back to somewhere.

The human mind is funny. Most of this paragraph is why I'm a non-believer but we came to different conclusions.

As far as we know, the reality we experience, is bound by the physical limits of the universe. If a divine being existed, it would exist outside of our reality....something we can only imagine, not actually experience and accurately recognize it for what it really is. Like infinity, which does not exist and we have examples of it in our universe. Yet, the infinite is a concept we can grasp and for the most part, manipulate. We can't tell the difference between 4 googol vs infinite, to the naked eye, so why would we be able to distinguish between a supernatural/divine experience vs currently unexplainable yet mundane one. There was a point in time where thought a rainstorm was a sign from the heavens ffs.

So if divine beings exist, we do not have tools, senses or mental capacity to properly comprehend them. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to or are trying to sell you something. Belief in the divine takes a blatant leap in reason that I don't feel is useful or needed. Plus even if I took that leap, there are literally millions of gods Humanity has claimed existed. I would not only have to place my faith in the god but in the billions of uneducated people who've spent several millennias adding and removing the lore for their own reasons. Christianity for example has several thousand denominations, six main branches. If this shyt actually mattered, there wouldn't be this much confusion.

 

[I'm Blackman]

Yes I do fully.

 

[SNG]

The human mind is funny. Most of this paragraph is why I'm a non-believer but we came to different conclusions.

As far as we know, the reality we experience, is bound by the physical limits of the universe. If a divine being existed, it would exist outside of our reality....something we can only imagine, not actually experience and accurately recognize it for what it really is. Like infinity, which does not exist and we have examples of it in our universe. Yet, the infinite is a concept we can grasp and for the most part, manipulate. We can't tell the difference between 4 googol vs infinite, to the naked eye, so why would we be able to distinguish between a supernatural/divine experience vs currently unexplainable yet mundane one. There was a point in time where thought a rainstorm was a sign from the heavens ffs.

So if divine beings exist, we do not have tools, senses or mental capacity to properly comprehend them. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to or are trying to sell you something. Belief in the divine takes a blatant leap in reason that I don't feel is useful or needed. Plus even if I took that leap, there are literally millions of gods Humanity has claimed existed. I would not only have to place my faith in the god but in the billions of uneducated people who've spent several millennias adding and removing the lore for their own reasons. Christianity for example has several thousand denominations, six main branches. If this shyt actually mattered, there wouldn't be this much confusion.

And your experience might just be that to live as a nonbeliever or the higher power may show itself to you later on in your life in a way you can comprehend it. The higher power or energy goes beyond Christianity or religion. There’s a reason why some people on this earth of psychic abilities and other gifts naturally and some don’t.

 

[levitate]

A creator/creators yes.

God as presented in religious texts? No.

 

[I'm Blackman]

Yes, I do

More recently, he stopped me from trying to take revenge in my own hands.

But I have been struggling in my faith lately. Grandpa passed this morning, i had some disheartening news weeks before that, failed relationships, trying not to self-medicate, etc.

So I still do believe, I just have been so down and out lately… whole energy has been negative IRL so I’ve tried to keep to myself

Sorry about your loss bro.

 

[levitate]

I don't see how the space-time continuum would exist at all without being formed by something/someone that can exist outside of space and time. Why is material reality even here? Why would there even be physical dimensions or matter within which anything else can occur? Something existing outside of spacetime can naturally be eternal (by its very definition), but material reality has to be created by something and is on a time continuum that you have to trace back to somewhere.

I agree with this except for the necessity of our creator’s existence being infinite.

We could simply be living in a simulation created by some higher (non-eternal) being.

 

[Armchair Militant]

Not anymore

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I agree with this except for the necessity of our creator’s existence being infinite.

We could simply be living in a simulation created by some higher (non-eternal) being.

What created that being's reality then? If that is a material being, with a non-eternal starting and ending date, then how did the reality that being exists within come to be?

 

[SNG]

What created that being's reality then? If that is a material being, with a non-eternal starting and ending date, then how did the reality that being exists within come to be?

This is what this question always traces back to and scientists want to call it the Big Bang and not have an answer to what the Big Bang was.

 

[levitate]

What created that being's reality then? If that is a material being, with a non-eternal starting and ending date, then how did the reality that being exists within come to be?

By a being higher than itself, i.e its “God”.

Then you’d have a potentially infinite God of the Gods loop. Which is OK to me.

It is absurd. But is an infinite God of the Gods loop truly any more absurd than an infinite God?

I don’t think so.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It is absurd. But is an infinite God of the Gods loop truly any more absurd than an infinite God?

Yes, it is.

I don't think an infinite God who exists outside of spacetime is absurd, because anything that exists outside of spacetime will naturally be timeless and infinite. There's literally no space to confine it and no time to make it finite.

Whereas in your god of gods loops, everyone still lives within a material reality. So there's no explanation for how that can be timeless, and by adding to the loops you're just constantly passing the buck on the question, you're not actually explaining it.

The other place the logic fails is that we should be part of the loop. But no one in our reality is creating another reality that they can be a God of. We can write computer programs but we can't imbue the characters with consciousness.