How many of y’all believe in god

Do you believe in God

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 65.8%
  • No

    Votes: 41 34.2%

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Yes, I believe. I was indoctrinated as a child. As I grew older it just makes sense that we're not here randomly. This is the only planet we can safely breath on, there's plants that grow here that can't grow anywhere, these same plants and herbs are our medicine, the natural sun strengthens us, animals that live here can't live anywhere else, their food was already here before they were. All of this is not coincidence.

There's so many things I don't participate in due to my beliefs, and I believe it's protected me from wickedness.
 

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I voted no but I'm agnostic I would have chosen an "I don't know" option if it was in the poll.
 

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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

- In the beginning meant in the beginning of earthly life. Not the beginning of everything that’s ever existed.

- the spirit hovering over the waters, much like a drone hovers over a surveyed area.

God discovered an area suitable for fertilization
 

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That didn't happen. The great flood was a story that was used to keep humans in line and in control of the consequences of being wicked. We see the consequences of what happens when you are wicked simply by the law of the universe and energy. Even if you go through the consequences of wickedness and you survive doesn't mean you can't learn from it and be a man of righteousness from it.

so "i love humans so i tell them stories about mass murder and genocide"??

:patrice:

much better :mjlol:
 

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Yes, I do

More recently, he stopped me from trying to take revenge in my own hands.

But I have been struggling in my faith lately. Grandpa passed this morning, i had some disheartening news weeks before that, failed relationships, trying not to self-medicate, etc.

So I still do believe, I just have been so down and out lately… whole energy has been negative IRL so I’ve tried to keep to myself
 

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I don't see how the space-time continuum would exist at all without being formed by something/someone that can exist outside of space and time. Why is material reality even here? Why would there even be physical dimensions or matter within which anything else can occur? Something existing outside of spacetime can naturally be eternal (by its very definition), but material reality has to be created by something and is on a time continuum that you have to trace back to somewhere.

Plus I see a lot in Jesus's teachings (the real ones from the Bible and the early Church, not the corporatized rich church distortion) have wisdom and truth beyond mere human understanding.



Growing up my mom was into church but my dad didn't believe any of it, so I grew up basically ignoring all that. Decided to start following Jesus during college while I was seeking more meaning in my life than anything I had found in the secular world.


@Rhakim great post!

Could you elaborate on the wisdom and truth beyond mere human understanding that came from the teachings of Jesus?
 
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@Rhakim great post!

Could you elaborate on the wisdom and truth beyond mere human understanding that came from the teachings of Jesus?


I haven't thought about it systematically in a long time, it would take me several days or weeks to do real justice to a full-on "Jesus" post.

But some of the things I would include in there is the understanding of what holding onto possessions does to a person and why we need to remove ourselves from that.

The understanding of what seeking power does to a person and why we need to abandon that route.

The concept of loving one's enemies and how that heals your own heart, not just helps the other person.

The self-awareness of how we are all guilty sinners and thus have no position to judge another eternally, the need to focus on our own errors before we try to fix others, and what that means when we think of anything from religious divisions (hatred of Samaritans) to civil penalties (stoning of adulterers).

The actual practical acts of love he showed to Samaritans, to Gentiles, to women, to tax collectors, to sinners, to prostitutes, to every kind of person his society was teaching him to despise, and the beauty of the parables he used to hit home.

Seeing the futility of "eye for an eye" and willingness to go the nonviolent route instead.

The ability to be fully embedded in the deeper truths of Judaism in terms of love of God and love of neighbor and all the aspects of positive community and even religious ritual together, yet being able to parse that away from the food laws and sabbath laws and cleanliness laws and animal sacrifices and religiously imposed ethnic divisions that were only getting in the way and making people more separated from each other and from God.

The power of the parables - especially The Good Samaritan, The Prodigal Son, The Rich Man and Lazarus, The Sheep and the Goats. These aren't just famous because Christianity is a major world religion, I think if they were completely independent stories not connected to any particular person or religion, they still would be famous today because the message within each one is so powerful, and so counterintuitive to the way the world wants us to work.

Even the willingness to accept persecution and the knowledge that the faith grows greater and more legitimately and even spreads with more force and power from enduring persecution rather than from participating in it.


I'm sure there's more but that's what came to mind immediately. And not that I'm perfect at following all that (worse than usual recently), but how clear it is to me that I'm better off when I do.


On top of that, just how incredibly on-point his parables and sayings are, how powerful, how tightly worded, how revolutionary on so many different levels....and this is all coming from one young nobody of common background? We're not talking about Plato, an aristocrat who was educated at the feet of the most famous philosopher in Athens. We're not talking about Buddha, born into a royal family with access to the best of everything and then spending years in meditation to digest and reformulate it all. And I think Jesus's teaching stands up quite favorably to either of theirs, or anyone else's. We're talking just some random guy from a random background, still relatively young, who told us how to be human with more precision, humility, and wisdom than any educated or powerful man ever had. That feels God-given to me.
 

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Yes, I do

More recently, he stopped me from trying to take revenge in my own hands.

But I have been struggling in my faith lately. Grandpa passed this morning, i had some disheartening news weeks before that, failed relationships, trying not to self-medicate, etc.

So I still do believe, I just have been so down and out lately… whole energy has been negative IRL so I’ve tried to keep to myself


Sorry about that man. I know we don't always get along here but I'll pray for you. No problem keeping negative energy to yourself but do find someone you can trust to talk to about how you feel a little, even if the convo only focuses on whatever parts you actually want to talk about.
 

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I haven't thought about it systematically in a long time, it would take me several days or weeks to do real justice to a full-on "Jesus" post.

But some of the things I would include in there is the understanding of what holding onto possessions does to a person and why we need to remove ourselves from that.

The understanding of what seeking power does to a person and why we need to abandon that route.

The concept of loving one's enemies and how that heals your own heart, not just helps the other person.

The self-awareness of how we are all guilty sinners and thus have no position to judge another eternally, the need to focus on our own errors before we try to fix others, and what that means when we think of anything from religious divisions (hatred of Samaritans) to civil penalties (stoning of adulterers).

The actual practical acts of love he showed to Samaritans, to Gentiles, to women, to tax collectors, to sinners, to prostitutes, to every kind of person his society was teaching him to despise, and the beauty of the parables he used to hit home.

Seeing the futility of "eye for an eye" and willingness to go the nonviolent route instead.

The ability to be fully embedded in the deeper truths of Judaism in terms of love of God and love of neighbor and all the aspects of positive community and even religious ritual together, yet being able to parse that away from the food laws and sabbath laws and cleanliness laws and animal sacrifices and religiously imposed ethnic divisions that were only getting in the way and making people more separated from each other and from God.

The power of the parables - especially The Good Samaritan, The Prodigal Son, The Rich Man and Lazarus, The Sheep and the Goats. These aren't just famous because Christianity is a major world religion, I think if they were completely independent stories not connected to any particular person or religion, they still would be famous today because the message within each one is so powerful, and so counterintuitive to the way the world wants us to work.

Even the willingness to accept persecution and the knowledge that the faith grows greater and more legitimately and even spreads with more force and power from enduring persecution rather than from participating in it.


I'm sure there's more but that's what came to mind immediately. And not that I'm perfect at following all that (worse than usual recently), but how clear it is to me that I'm better off when I do.


On top of that, just how incredibly on-point his parables and sayings are, how powerful, how tightly worded, how revolutionary on so many different levels....and this is all coming from one young nobody of common background? We're not talking about Plato, an aristocrat who was educated at the feet of the most famous philosopher in Athens. We're not talking about Buddha, born into a royal family with access to the best of everything and then spending years in meditation to digest and reformulate it all. And I think Jesus's teaching stands up quite favorably to either of theirs, or anyone else's. We're talking just some random guy from a random background, still relatively young, who told us how to be human with more precision, humility, and wisdom than any educated or powerful man ever had. That feels God-given to me.

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Saying “believe” sounds like you need convincing or that you forced that decision upon yourself..


To answer your question yes I KNOW God is real and no I can’t prove it to you, HE gives out his passcodes to whom he gives out his passcodes to.


It is what it is
 
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