How many black people work for Vice/Noisey/Complex/SPIN/Rolling Stone? (UPDATE :BUZZFEED included)

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:snoop: not surprised. We don't own our art. We don't own the distribution either
Well black people "own" the art.

However, black people generally don't own media outlets or the many ways to distribute music to the public.
Don't worry though, the VAST, VAST majority of white people don't either and they still toil
away making their country, rock, metal etc. undeterred.
 

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This is why I can't take their opinions seriously. Not to mention most of their articles REEK of self-importance and try-hard overdramatic penmanship. It's almost embarrasing
It really is.

BTW, this is one of the most prime examples of white privilege I've ever seen.

Being able to work, write about, and document the art culture of black people while not being black and not having any black people around to aid in the process.

I don't know if I effectively phrased that right, but I hope people will get the point.
 

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Look at this guy. He's an aging hipster, the worst kind of hipster. You can find him at organic cappuccino shops trying to impress 21-22 year olds with his knowledge of Bob Dylan and Ouija boards. :heh:

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Well black people "own" the art.

However, black people generally don't own media outlets or the many ways to distribute music to the public.
Don't worry though, the VAST, VAST majority of white people don't either and they still toil
away making their country, rock, metal etc. undeterred.
They own the record companies, the cd pressing plants, the vinyl pressing plants, the media companies, the promotion companies, the live music events and festivals, are the majority concert goers and music buyers...they pretty much cornered every market of the game to act otherwise is just a coping mechanism.
 

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Doesnt Big Biz work for complex??

I fukk w/ biz but ive never actually seen a picture of him. Which is kind of odd considering a lot of these writing types market themselves to some degree :patrice:

I know that BigGhost or w/e dude who does album reviews on his site isn't black. He's a fukking white guy from Canada. He wants it to be kept a secret :russ:
 

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They own the record companies, the cd pressing plants, the vinyl pressing plants, the media companies, the promotion companies, the live music events and festivals, are the majority concert goers and music buyers...they pretty much cornered every market of the game to act otherwise is just a coping mechanism.
It isn't "acting otherwise" it's acknowledging that the art/music is distinct and separate from
the venues and avenues which use the music as a means to make money.

Someone owning a club I perform at, does not make them a part owner in the creation
of "Black Music", they just gave me a venue to express myself and potentially introduce
my music to new people.
D'Angelo's music doesn't stop being "Black" because it's sold on itunes, you follow ?

Whenever we're discussing pop music, it's inevitable that discussions of disparities in representation
and financial gain will come up, however, this is a distinct and separate argument from whether or not
the music is still "Black" or comes from Black musicians across the nation.
I don't feel that's up for debate at all to be honest.
 
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It isn't "acting otherwise" it's acknowledging that the art/music is distinct and separate from
the venues and avenues which use the music as a means to make money.

Someone owning a club I perform at, does not make them a part owner in the creation
of "Black Music", they just gave me a venue to express myself and potentially introduce
it to new people.
D'Angelo's music doesn't stop being "Black" because it's sold on itunes, you follow ?

Whenever we're discussing pop music, it's inevitable that discussions of disparities in representation
and financial gain will come up, however, this is a distinct and separate argument from whether or not
the music is still "Black" or comes from Black musicians across the nation.
I don't feel that's up for debate at all to be honest.
I feel you. Art can never truly be "owned".
 

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It's really relevant. And you're white. What, you think you're above the white rap nerds who staff those publications or something?
So is she wrong for thinking that there's something wrong with music publications that write about black music barely having any black staff members cause she's white?
 

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It's really relevant. And you're white. What, you think you're above the white rap nerds who staff those publications or something?

Is it my job? Am I making money off of it? Am I profiting off of it? No.

Not getting in this again.. I already said my feelings in another thread on how I feel about white publicists and writers making a career off of writing about hip hop.

Complex literally just posts tweets from rappers with some click bait ass titles and makes horrible lists and gets paid off it. They're terrible
 
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