How Good Was Reggie Miller Actually?

[Bigblackted4]

Reggie was not a great athlete, he didn't rebound, he wasn't a great ball handler, didn't come up with a lot of steals/turnovers. He just didn't have the skillset to be a great transition scorer. I don't get the luxury term.

So you wouldn’t consider Steph a great transition scorer

 

[Bigblackted4]

It’s like people in this thread never heard of both gravity or spacing. When you have an outlier player that causes that your offense will automatically receive a huge bump.

 

[NatiboyB]

Beal is much better than you giving him credit for. He is a 2 way player but he is not a #1 option for a winner. Reggie knew how to win games.

I don’t think he did until that last few years of his career almost...Never know by that time Beal will be able to also...When it’s all said and done I wouldn’t be surprised if Beal/CJ have similar career averages counting numbers wise

Mitch Richmond>>>> Reggie Miller Mitch is the one is is underrated.

 

[ISO]

So you wouldn’t consider Steph a great transition scorer

So you're applying the limitations that I listed from Reggie Miller to Steph?

Nah. Steph can get out on the break, he has been one of the top rebounding point guards, he has been one of the top ball thieves on defense, he has great handles, he's a great finisher at the rim and is a threat to pull it as a trailer or ball handler from 3, and he has good open floor speed, and he's a very good passer.

 

[NYC Rebel]

He was the father of Ray Allen and Steph Curry's style. He was good but clearly a step behind Jordan. He was in the same category as Barkley, Gary Payton, Drexler, etc. The Pacers just didn't have enough firepower to match the Bulls and they definitely had no answer for Shaq. Had he had more help he could have won a ring or two. The eras were different so nikkas weren't ring chasing and creating superteams but, giving it some thought, Reggie would've been a good addition to the Spurs. Him and D-Rob would've been a good combo, and once Timmy came it would've been over.

He was NOT on any of the players you mentioned categoriey.

Ray Allen probably had more dunks taking it to the basket in his first three seasons than Reggie had for his entire career.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Reggie was not a great athlete, he didn't rebound, he wasn't a great ball handler, didn't come up with a lot of steals/turnovers. He just didn't have the skillset to be a great transition scorer. I don't get the luxury term.

Didn't need to be a "great transition scorer" to get points in transition that other players benefit from who had the ball in their hands on the regular.

The point is, half-court scoring when defenses are set should have greater value than scoring in transition when defenses are scrambled. Meaning, if you were to compare Reggie's half-court scoring v. other high-volume scorers' half-court scoring, his points average would look more favorable, instead of looking at what he averaged in a vacuum. Especially since he didn't sacrifice functionality and flow just to get his.

 

[Reece]

Reggie is a tier below all those guys you named.

Subjective.

 

[Reece]

He was NOT on any of the players you mentioned categoriey.

Ray Allen probably had more dunks taking it to the basket in his first three seasons than Reggie had for his entire career.

Your opinion.

And that's why I said he was the grandfather. Ergo, each successive player after him added on to the playing style he fathered.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Allen was way better and more well rounded than Miller. Ray could actually get to the rakk in his early days...he would dunk on nikkas too

Also whoever tried to put Miller on Barkleys level is smokin that wet. Barkley made the Finals as a #1 guy out of a stakked West and actually put sum fear in the Bulls. A multiple All-NBA player and not no 3rd team fucc shyt neither

 

[stro]

GOAT. If Reggie had a Scottie Pippen instead of Haywoode Workman, MJ woulda had at least one less ring.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Sir c00n was arguably better than MJ at one point; Reggie was most definitely NOT on his level. Stop that nonsense.

 

[Reggie]

The fact it took Mitch Richmond, who was a 3x All-NBA SECOND Team player longer to get the call than Reggie says it all.

It's cause of the 3 point record and the theatrics against New York not to mention Mitch mostly playing for pathetic Kings teams in his prime.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Harsh realities

The only "harsh reality" is: MJ/Bulls had a role player [Kukoc] that stepped up in Game 7 of the '98 ECF (21 points - 14 points in the 3rd quarter when the rest of the team went 2/11 - without that, the narrative around MJ/Bulls is different), and Reggie/Pacers didn't (Reggie was basically the only one on his team who bothered showing up on the offensive end, whereas the Bulls had Pippen and Kukoc who combined for nearly 40 points).

Reb isn't saying that nonsense if the roles were reversed. shyt, we're not even having this discussion right now if the roles were reversed.

 

[NYC Rebel]

GOAT. If Reggie had a Scottie Pippen instead of Haywoode Workman, MJ woulda had at least one less ring.

So if Reggie had a BETTER PLAYER THAN HIM playing alongside him?

 

[NYC Rebel]

Your opinion.

And that's why I said he was the grandfather. Ergo, each successive player after him added on to the playing style he fathered.

He wasnt. Ray could put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. You are outright wrong.