How effed up is it that almost the most important decision in life is made at age 17?

[Wild self]

the bubble isnt gonna burst because its not a scam, that is just some shyt that you are making up

LOL You think that people gonna need PHDs to work in an office job with benefits?

 

[theworldismine13]

I want college to be affordable and where people can actually live a better lifestyle like 40 years ago. Not being in debt and people sucking money away from you.

college has never been free and it was completely normal to graduate from college with debt 40 years ago, you believe in something that never existed

and with federal students loans you can defer payments and you can have income sensitive payments

like i posted in the other thread, even in sweden students were college is free students graduate with debt http://qz.com/85017/college-in-sweden-is-free-but-students-still-have-a-ton-of-debt-how-can-that-be/

rising tuition is a problem but its not a scam and its not a bubble, if there is any bubble that will pop it is the college's bubble that will pop if students start choosing cheaper schools

 

[theworldismine13]

LOL You think that people gonna need PHDs to work in an office job with benefits?

i think you dont know what you are talking about, and its false to call college a scam

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

the maturity at 17 is so vastly different kid to kid. I for one was an immature motherfukker.

 

[MewTwo]

One can argue that it doesnt have to be the most important because there are other options....but how messed up is it that at age 17, they make highschool students choose what they want to do in life, where they want to do it, and how they must make it happen in terms of student debt. As a 21 year old now looking back at the 17 year old self...although i made a decent choice as far as where to go, love the field of Finance and am debt free so far I still regret not picking a different school which I am trying to transfer to after my internship.


My concern is just that they dont supply kids with the knowledge needed to make these decisions. Debt is something obviously foreign to these kids so I wont even speak on that. But at them university fairs, you just have a bunch of schools that for some reason have the right to claim theyre the best in this, this and that...when in all actuality are considered laughing stocks when it comes to the industry you wanna get into. The average student takes this shyt like and runs with it because even magazine ratings dont offer much knowledge, and at that point all you really know about for research is google and each individual schools website which will hold even more bullshyt.

Combine that with parents who dont wanna pay for their kids to live in dorm rooms or off campus housing away from home you have kids choosing universities they think are good....but more so for the convenience.

I see people at work and they're depressed saying they went to X University and had a 4.0 GPA thinking theyd be hittin...then they are un for a rude awakening because they werent in a target school. I refuse to end up like them .

A damn shame. Once upon a time you could have people that came off farms to work admin jobs at banks, then rise up to be the managing director of commodities trading @ Citi with nothing but a high school diploma at the beginnings . Now you need that, a bachelors, 2 years experience at a great institution, extracurriculars and to know someone to be on the interview list full of 50 other students.Read about it all the time on Bloomberg when it comes to some of these execs. SMH.

When I graduated high school I repeatedly told my mom that I needed to take a year off before heading to college. She (like every other member of my family) didn't bothered listening to me and forced me to attend the local community college. Anyway, I ended up failing all of my classes and had a psychological breakdown. I've been severely depressed and haven't left the house for 5 years. It was quite clear I wasn't ready for school and that I needed to go at my own pace. But my mom is so brain-washed by the media that she believes I should just go through school as quickly as possible despite my mental illnesses. I'm now trying to find ways to make money online so I could move away from my parents and start my life over (or perhaps go to another country).

Poor parenting in my opinion (sadly everyone I've spoken to has defended my mother). Pressuring your kids is fine but there is such a thing as going overboard...

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

One can argue that it doesnt have to be the most important because there are other options....but how messed up is it that at age 17, they make highschool students choose what they want to do in life, where they want to do it, and how they must make it happen in terms of student debt. .

I dont know how it works with tuition in Canada but I think I can safely say... you and I both know how banks operate.

 

[Ohene]

y.

It's just that we wait until the end of their junior year of beginning of their senior year to tell them and expect them to take all of that into consideration while meeting application deadlines. They're given too much at once. It should be something ingrained and developed throughout high school. But my point is still that they can do it, it's just that they're not being given the tools to do so and are also failing to seek the answers.

This is basically the way I feel about it

 

[Juven]

It's really not that big of a decision.

Americans/Westernized people (the current generation) are just generally a lot more coddled by their parents/society and have come to place no true emphasis on growing up and maturation.

From the stuff typed on here, from the way many of you think/were raised, you'd still be failing/regretting decisions, not because of a flawed system, but because you simply aren't independent/confident enough.

By the time you are a teenager, you should be able to effectively assess situations and garner the consequences of probably decisions, even more important for men. You should be able to research things properly. You should be able to find facts for yourself. You shouldn't be taking everything a stranger says as fact. You should be able to make plans to make things happen.

School isn't a scam. People personally not being prepared for something doesn't make it a scam.

you probably just had an older brother that told you everything.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

If I had to do it all over again i'd have went to a trade school. I'm under 25 but I vividly remember the mass confusion I had my senior year in high school. It's incredible how such a failure of a system has survived that long.

 

[No1]

you probably just had an older brother that told you everything.

I'll be fair. This is why my younger cousins knew what to do. I schooled them on the game.

 

[Hollywood Co]

It's not so much the age but complete lack of preparation or even warning that bothers me most in retrospect.

 

[LebronsHairline]

When I graduated high school I repeatedly told my mom that I didn't to take a year off before heading to college. She (like every other member of my family) didn't bothered listening to me and forced me to attend the local community college. Anyway, I ended up failing all of my classes and had a psychological breakdown. I've been severely depressed and haven't left the house for 5 years. It was quite clear I wasn't ready for school and that I needed to go at my own pace. But my mom is so brain-washed by the media that she believes I should just go through school as quickly as possible despite my mental illnesses. I'm now trying to find ways to make money online so I could move away from my parents and start my life over (or perhaps go to another country).

Poor parenting in my opinion (sadly everyone I've spoken to has defended my mother). Pressuring your kids is fine but there is such a thing as going overboard...

This is similar to what happened to me (not the psychological breakdown part) but i had every adult figure i knew jamming down my throat that the only way was going thru college which i realized when i talked to hundreds and hundreds more people that this is pretty much what happened to them. If i could do that shyt over again i would have either went to trade school or worked shytty regular jobs until i had the money to get on my real estate biz