How does ObamaCare affect a doctors pay?

[Moose_Greyjoy]

More or less, yeah. It's my opinion. I said my prospective is different. My perception of life is varies from yours. "If I choose to be a doctor". F*ck the money, I want the experiences. I've been around a lot of people with money. It's not my end goal in life. I'd work for pennies, as long as I had adequate food and a place to workout. But then again, my outlook on life is different than most people.

They're still stuck on the bottom two levels:

Let me know when yall reach the top. It's lonely up here burrrrrrrrrrr........


Point Blank:

(imo)An Individual shouldn't engage in any line of work, where the end result is met with dissatisfaction, simply because an individual had a utopic vision of a perfect lifestyle, doesn't negate the fact reaching that point maybe like seeking an unfulfilled facade(nothing concrete).

Honestly my goal in life does not involve around money, it never has been....I just never liked the ideal that a person who pursues money as the goal is dishonorable or evil.....In fact my goal in life is keeping my family well off as much as I can humanly possible

 

[darealvelle]

Some of these doctors love the lavish life and living in excess

walk in for 5 minutes and get a bill sent to your house for a $1,000

The process of charity care if you don't have insurance is

Hell yea, i remember getting in a car accident. So the ambulance gave me a ride to local hospital. The hospital was literally 3 minutes away. Got a bill saying the ride to the hospital was $250.

 

[Padron1926]

So we're going to act like a lot of doctors aren't complete fukking hacks now?

You're acting like they are all House M.D. curing cancer and walking on water. How about all the family doctors that are raping people for five minute visits with their expertise being in writing shytty prescriptions and telling their patients to "walk it off.." or "give it a week or two.."

yes there are shytty docs who really dont care, just like every other profession on this fukkin planet. it your job as a consumer to find reviews on these doctors, talk to other people or whatever means necessary to figure out who the best docs are. If you dont do that its your own damn fault.

They have everything on the internet about these doctors, yrs experience, schools they went to for all levels (see where the Medical school they attended ranks in the country), where they practiced their residency, what r they board certified in, what boards do they sit on, reviews from patients.

Just cause you dont have insurance doesnt mean u cant see these doctors, u just need money...u can work out payment plans....even if you have insurance, there are still co-pays and deductibles to meet. shyt aint free if you have insurance, i still have to pay some of the bill even though my insurance covers a portion.

 

[Spliff]

Have friends going to med school soon and are saying that they are basically fukked when they are done due to student loans.. Saying they'll only being pulling around 100k a year, but stuck with 1/4 Mill loan debt..

He should know the pay range each specialty offers. Family and general practices take the biggest hit IIRC. They'll have to take on more patients to make the same as before. Earning 250k+ is still attainable with other specialties. The sky isn't falling.

To say that someone should not do a HIGH skilled job for money is bullshyt....I can't belive people dapped that

People expecting smart individuals to go into medicine and acquire tons of debt for little or no pay are morons. Those who feel their doctors shouldn't get paid should instead seek care from a Physician assistant or Nurse Practioner. Doctors sacrifice a huge chunk of their life to become the specialists that they are and should be compensated handsomely.

you guys completely missed what he was saying

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

He should know the pay range each specialty offers. Family and general practices take the biggest hit IIRC. They'll have to take on more patients to make the same as before. Earning 250k+ is still attainable with other specialties. The sky isn't falling.





you guys completely missed what he was saying

We were not replying to him check the post history

 

[Mowgli]

gTHis will insure our future medical practitioners are in it for the right reasons. We can throw the ones we have now in the bushes. Universities should be leaned on about their prices though. I think this is what is holding America back. School shouldnt easy but it shouldnt be a mortage.

 

[Spliff]

We were not replying to him check the post history

I know...

 

[Serious]

gTHis will insure our future medical practitioners are in it for the right reasons. We can throw the ones we have now in the bushes. Universities should be leaned on about their prices though. I think this is what is holding America back. School shouldnt easy but it shouldnt be a mortage.

The is that in a lot of developed countries, post secondary education and health care are "highly" subsidized by the government(taxes).

In certain countries, a bum is fully covered. Some countries are sohh efficient, at subsidizing health care, that it's a tiny percentage of a nation's budget.(Taiwan)

Is the system very expensive?
A.

Expensive is a relative term. Taiwan spends 6 percent of G.D.P. on health care, compared to 16 percent in the United States.

Health Care Abroad: Taiwan - NYTimes.com


In America everything is profits over people.



I'm not against, capitalism and people making high salaries, but I believe there should be some compromise for the sake of human life......

 

[Darts]

Future presidents and Congress are going to have to tackle some type of "Medical Practitioner's Reform" because there is already a global doctor shortage right now which will get worse in 20 years...with people not wanting to go in the medical field like before.

Y'all shouldn't be on that "they shouldn't do it for the money" shyt...because these people spend years going through rigorous training and take on a HEAVY amount of debt...only to end up deep in debt doing one of the hardest jobs imaginable.

Its no wonder folks don't wanna be doctors anymore or go only for the high paying speciality medical jobs...leading to the current doctor shortage crisis.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Future presidents and Congress are going to have to tackle some type of "Medical Practitioner's Reform" because there is already a global doctor shortage right now which will get worse in 20 years...with people not wanting to go in the medical field like before.

Y'all shouldn't be on that "they shouldn't do it for the money" shyt...because these people spend years going through rigorous training and take on a HEAVY amount of debt...only to end up deep in debt doing one of the hardest jobs imaginable.

Its no wonder folks don't wanna be doctors anymore or go only for the high paying speciality medical jobs...leading to the current doctor shortage crisis.

true, true...


A lot of times it's not the doctor's fault. It's the hospital or the insurance company always trynna dictate how these doctors provide care. I know some hospitalists who get paid once they discharge a patient. Imagine how that works. Some insurers would approve a procedure then cancel last minute just to have the hospital responsible for the bill.

We need a true healthcare reform

 

[69 others]

everyone have the right to do a job for money or passion but obamacare causing alot of doctors to make less money is more hyperbole than anything else. It's true that some doctors (those that accept non private insurance) could make less cause part of the plan is to lower fees over time but i think smarter doctors would find ways to lower their operating cost something that is needed in the healthcare industry. others could only accept private insurance if they want to and get higher fees. whatever happens the market would respond accordingly as it seems to be doing already with alot of efficiently run health clinics popping up to cater to people with public insurance. obamacare isn't perfect but overall its positives far out weigh the negatives. and another thing as i mentioned in another thread the idea for obamacare was thought up by right wing think tanks the reason why romney and huntsman implemented versions of in their states and the only reason why the gop seem to be salty is that obama and the dems would get credit for it which is some seroius political capital.

 

[zerozero]

why do doctors (or at least insurance rates and payouts) deserve costs that explosively outgrow inflation?? why should healthcare eat up such a huge portion of the US gdp with lower outcomes?

lowering healthcare costs will require some rethinking on the part of healthcare financing companies (insurers) and this may effect how much more money professionals are making over time. but it's a fantasy to think that the current model is free market or natural. it's a scam by the insurance companies. This money Americans are pumping into healthcare isn't delivering correspondingly better results!

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Tell them not to become doctors then.


It's not too late.

 

[daze23]

:sadporsche:

 

[88m3]

:sadporsche:

This can't be life