How does ObamaCare affect a doctors pay?

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Have friends going to med school soon and are saying that they are basically fukked when they are done due to student loans.. Saying they'll only being pulling around 100k a year, but stuck with 1/4 Mill loan debt..
 

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Don't know, but
1. they shouldn't become a doctor for the money

2. I'm pretty sure they're come up with a cool incentive, sort of like the British model, where doctors compete amongst each other, to provide top notch care. For example a doctors' salary maybe 120-150k, but for doing a job and the satisfactory from their patients. They receive an extra 90-120k a year. Seems fair to me. :manny:

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Don't know, but
1. they shouldn't become a doctor for the money

2. I'm pretty sure they're come up with a cool incentive, sort of like the British model, where doctors compete amongst each other, to provide top notch care. For example a doctors' salary maybe 120-150k, but for doing a job and the satisfactory from their patients. They receive an extra 90-120k a year. Seems fair to me. :manny:

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It would be great if they did this for teachers
 

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Don't know, but
1. they shouldn't become a doctor for the money

2. I'm pretty sure they're come up with a cool incentive, sort of like the British model, where doctors compete amongst each other, to provide top notch care. For example a doctors' salary maybe 120-150k, but for doing a job and the satisfactory from their patients. They receive an extra 90-120k a year. Seems fair to me. :manny:

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Peep 9:57

To say that someone should not do a HIGH skilled job for money is bullshyt....I can't belive people dapped that
 

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People expecting smart individuals to go into medicine and acquire tons of debt for little or no pay are morons. Those who feel their doctors shouldn't get paid should instead seek care from a Physician assistant or Nurse Practioner. Doctors sacrifice a huge chunk of their life to become the specialists that they are and should be compensated handsomely.
 

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People expecting smart individuals to go into medicine and acquire tons of debt for little or no pay are morons. Those who feel their doctors shouldn't get paid should instead seek care from a Physician assistant or Nurse Practioner. Doctors sacrifice a huge chunk of their life to become the specialists that they are and should be compensated handsomely.

This
 

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:snoop: with in reason, if doctors make 280k on average as opposed to 350k big deal.........

My prospective is a bit different, merely because one of my mentors is an MD.
She went to UCLA then transferred to Stanford Medical School(so I don't want to hear anything about her being a moron)As it stands she currently works at a nonprofit hospital where she has been at since, residency (15 years). By now she could have easily transferred to a top notch hospital like Cedar-Sinai(big hospital in Beverly Hills) like some of her friends.

Instead, she choose to remain at a nonprofit. Simply because that's where she felt she needed the most.

Point I'm trying to make is that not everyone goes into medicine for the money. I've considered going to medicine in the past too, money was never an ideal motivator, more so out curiosity.

I just hope cats wake up one day, there's tons of ways to make money in life, but not all those obstacles are as fulfilling as they may seem.

Point blank, there are several people who go into medicine with the clear incentive of putting profits over people, aka just in it for the money.

:pacspit:
don't me believe watch this doc:
http://video.pbs.org/video/1114402491/
They follow "Harvard" premed students through residency and view them 20 years later....
 

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:snoop: with in reason, if doctors make 280k on average as opposed to 350k big deal.........

My prospective is a bit different, merely because one of my mentors is an MD.
She went to UCLA then transferred to Stanford Medical School(so I don't want to hear anything about her being a moron)As it stands she currently works at a nonprofit hospital where she has been at since, residency (15 years). By now she could have easily transferred to a top notch hospital like Cedar-Sinai(big hospital in Beverly Hills) like some of her friends.

Instead, she choose to remain at a nonprofit. Simply because that's where she felt she needed the most.

Point I'm trying to make is that not everyone goes into medicine for the money. I've considered going to medicine in the past too, money was never an ideal motivator, more so out curiosity.

I just hope cats wake up one day, there's tons of ways to make money in life, but not all those obstacles are as fulfilling as they may seem.

Point blank, there are several people who go into medicine with the clear incentive of putting profits over people, aka just in it for the money.

:pacspit:
don't me believe watch this doc:
Video: Doctors' Diaries | Watch NOVA Online | PBS Video
They follow "Harvard" premed students through residency and view them 20 years later....

Ur original post said......1. they shouldn't become a doctor for the money....You are forcing your ideology on others with that comment and this post I quoted does nothing to justify that ideal......for just as many people who do their job for the good of others there are just as many who do it for the money.....money makes the world go round if doctors were to make extremely less money compared to other jobs then before, there would be less doctors
 
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People expecting smart individuals to go into medicine and acquire tons of debt for little or no pay are morons. Those who feel their doctors shouldn't get paid should instead seek care from a Physician assistant or Nurse Practioner. Doctors sacrifice a huge chunk of their life to become the specialists that they are and should be compensated handsomely.

So we're going to act like a lot of doctors aren't complete fukking hacks now?

You're acting like they are all House M.D. curing cancer and walking on water. How about all the family doctors that are raping people for five minute visits with their expertise being in writing shytty prescriptions and telling their patients to "walk it off.." or "give it a week or two.."

:comeon:
 

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So we're going to act like a lot of doctors aren't complete fukking hacks now?

You're acting like they are all House M.D. curing cancer and walking on water. How about all the family doctors that are raping people for five minute visits with their expertise being in writing shytty prescriptions and telling their patients to "walk it off.." or "give it a week or two.."

:comeon:

Their smart enough to get through med school.......but it is true not every doctor is equal with is why people pick and choose the doctor they would like to see if they can....but i don't think that was the poster you quoted point
 
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So we're going to act like a lot of doctors aren't complete fukking hacks now?

You're acting like they are all House M.D. curing cancer and walking on water. How about all the family doctors that are raping people for five minute visits with their expertise being in writing shytty prescriptions and telling their patients to "walk it off.." or "give it a week or two.."

:comeon:

Some of these doctors love the lavish life and living in excess :snoop:

walk in for 5 minutes and get a bill sent to your house for a $1,000 :comeon:

The process of charity care if you don't have insurance is :snoop:
 

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Some of these doctors love the lavish life and living in excess :snoop:

walk in for 5 minutes and get a bill sent to your house for a $1,000 :comeon:

The process of charity care if you don't have insurance is :snoop:

You don't think doctors deserve to be paid well?......Well meaning lots of money
 

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Ur original post said......1. they shouldn't become a doctor for the money....You are forcing your ideology on others with that comment and this post I quoted does nothing to justify that ideal......for just as many people who do their job for the good of others there are just as many who do it for the money.....money makes the world go round if doctors were to make extremely less money compared to other jobs then before, there would be less doctors
More or less, yeah. It's my opinion. I said my prospective is different. My perception of life is varies from yours. "If I choose to be a doctor". F*ck the money, I want the experiences. I've been around a lot of people with money. It's not my end goal in life. I'd work for pennies, as long as I had adequate food and a place to workout. But then again, my outlook on life is different than most people.

They're still stuck on the bottom two levels:
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:manny:
Let me know when yall reach the top. It's lonely up here burrrrrrrrrrr........


Point Blank:

(imo)An Individual shouldn't engage in any line of work, where the end result is met with dissatisfaction, simply because an individual had a utopic vision of a perfect lifestyle, doesn't negate the fact reaching that point maybe like seeking an unfulfilled facade(nothing concrete).
 
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