How does NY regain their OWN IDENTITY??

[DoomzdayzV]

This aint the New York of decades past. The city has no flavor whatsoever anymore.....the Koch and Dinkins eras were something else, yeah it was dangerous place to navigate but it was fun as hell too and people had alot of character.

edit: I find it hilarious that the illusion of ny being irrelevent last decade hasnt been torn down yet. I mean....50 Cent outsold the entire south by himself. yall were never more relevent.

 

[keon]

when rap became more "real" is when NYC lost it..

nikkas was spitting on some extra "big word" shyt, comic book shyt,fantasy shyt, or just had that out of the ordinary, "larger then life" type of character, which was cool, but the majority of people outside of the east wasn't on that..which is why jay-z remained relevant in the game imo, because he wasn't on none of that extra shyt either..he was just about his bread and sayin slick shyt in between

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

N.Y became stagnant. East coast had the juice and ATL had the old school Dungeon Family/Outkast sound that was dope.

Then they had that crunk/lil Jon sound that kept the spotlight on em

Then they came back with the Jeezy/Trap sound, once again keeping them in the limelight....meanwhile NY is either a) trying to recreate boom bap again or b) dikkriding the souths wave....Atlanta's creativity is killin em

NY needs a producer like Lex Luger to come out with a signature sound that NY artists can rally behind and call their own. They also need to push the envelope and not try to recreate 1994 all over again.

Houston had the crown for a minute when they brought something new to the table then disappeared when nikkas got tired of it.

stelllar post

 

[Skip b]

NY media and Radio need to black ball other artist like they were doing in the early 90's, and stop being slaves to these labels, playing this trash constantly and they will flourish once again.

It wrap for NY though we can't stay on top because we are haters by nature

 

[Skip b]

sacrifice Curtis Jackson to the hiphop gods

They already did, now we are stuck with the Kanye's of the world, while NY is wondering why they aren't buzzing

 

[SpeakherKnockin]

Being from the South, folks either love A$AP or hate him.

If you ask why they hate him, they say it's cause "he bit our whole style."

There are some good artists in NY but they don't have enough buzz to get em to just a hint of the limelight.

I like this lil dude from Harlem -- Blue I.D. | Leek

 

[Danie84]

By just spitting straight raw lyrical bars.

That's the template I grew up listening to.

 

[USSInsiders]

Yall fronting like Vado, Fred the Godson, and Red Cafe aren't killing the game. They finna bring NYC back yall. I believe in them nikkas.

 

[SKY DADDY]

and if Clams Casino actually didn't look at producing as a side hustle, include him too.

Harry Fraud doesn't even use that many soulful samples. He takes a lot of rock shyt and flips it.

As for NY and the sound, we love that Rick Ross sounding shyt. We don't even look at it as Southern to be honest. That Lex Luger /Southside shyt lights shyt up anywhere. That's some get hyped music.

thats cuz alotta beats rozay spits on are biggie influenced, not his whole style per say, but enough for him 2 get a foothold up here

 

[JoelB]

Even when this trap rap officially dies, u gonna have artists like Future and Travis Porter comin and bringin something different again...

Down south music scene never gets stale.

Clams Casino is dope. Jahlil Beats is a problem too but even he got a southern influenced style.

 

[151_Pr00f]

Alot of people saying NY is biting southern style production but I think it's more just the evolution of the sound of hip hop as a whole. Lets face it the tempo of music has speed up, with more intracaces than the slower boom bap tempo NY dominated in. Not to say that they can't bring heat on "trap" type beats, but they'll need to bring their own flavor along with that. As much as people hate on Jim Jones I think his Vampire Life 2 mixtape is a good template on how NY music should sound. Same NY vibe, but with the uptempo type production that dominates the hip hop scene as a whole.

 

[Doctor Wily]

 

[Doctor Wily]

 

[@ReallyReal]

i bumping Fred the Godson now.......

I cant wait til NY come back.......i always loved NY music.....

They just had a decade where they constantly dissed other regions....

and the south didnt take to that to well.....but we still supported NY
when NY didnt support us.......matter of fact we still support NY when they
dont even support themselves......like i said im banging Fred the Godson...
and i put my dudes on him.......but real talk.....the south just coming with to many bangers....i mean Cash-Out came overnight with a hit......

its like that in the south......one day u doing mixtapes....next week you on the radio...
a month after that u on tour....

 

[dre]

These threads pop up every 2 weeks. Less thinking more doing. If 2Chainz was from NY and was shining for the city you mean to tell me you'd have a problem with it because it wasn't the "New York sound"...it's beyond that these days..mainstream Hip Hop is one big city at this point need to get in where you fit in...

Everything stemmed from people's own interpretation of those old 80s NY records anyway, so if you had as much confidence in your city as you want to claim you'd know in a roundabout way everything traces back to the new york sound and be secure.

I will say that a lack of unity hurt things. In the early 90s there was competition for "the crown" but there wasn't as much animosity, most of the city's top names was cool with each other...but towards the late 90s and into the early 00s the competition turned into real problems and noone liked each other...so when one guy/crew falls there's noone to save him like in the South, that repeats and all you have left is Jay-Z counting the spoils and Nas taking whatever's left of that.

I don't really think anyone in the south cares about who's the "king", even TI, they all just want a piece of a pie and will share if necessary