How do you feel about the idea of Mandatory military service?

[UWasntThere]

I don't think it's a good idea to train everyone to be killing machines

 

[WIA20XX]

I think the context to your question is lost on most of TLR.

Is conscription a good idea? It has positives and negatives, but generally no.

Conscription hurts: The effects of military service on physical health, drinking, and smoking

Almost all South Korean men serve in the country's armed forces for two years. In this paper, we investigate whether the military service affects the health of draftees. Using an event study design, we use the conscription years to identify the effect ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Almost all South Korean men serve in the country's armed forces for two years. In this paper, we investigate whether the military service affects the health of draftees. Using an event study design, we use the conscription years to identify the effect the military service has on soldiers' physical health as well as on their smoking and drinking behavior. Our results show that the compulsory military service has a strong and long-lasting negative effect on physical health. Moreover, people who are drafted into the armed forces are more likely to consume more alcohol and cigarettes even years after they are discharged. Our results are of great interest to decision-makers weighing the pros and cons of conscription armies: mandatory military service adversely affects the male labor force and exacerbates drinking and smoking behavior.

Also

Through the use of the PSM framework, this article provides some evidence in favor of the existence of negative wage impacts of
compulsory military service, suggesting that the costs of performing military service outweigh its benefits.

https://www.dlsu.edu.ph/wp-content/uploads/pdf/research/journals/apssr/2022-september-vol22/ra-1.pdf

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

this right here

the impact of a volunteer military and a conscription military are dramatically different at the core. if people don't want to be there, they're just going to fukk up when you really, really can't afford to fukk up.

Exactly they can pick up a weapon and commit treason if they’re really pissed off at the state

 

[Mass]

I don't think it's a good idea to train everyone to be killing machines

The regular military does not train to be killing machines. They are trained to be obedient.

 

[maxamusa]

It'd be dope. I bet you a lot of pull yourself by your bootstraps punisher back the blue bumper sticker phaggots would be signing a much different tune.

 

[Vandelay]

Unless we're in an existential war, I don't think it's even value added to have people in the military who don't want to be there.

 

[Kooley_High]

I prefer voluntary service as the only people there are the ones who want to be in the armed services.

 

[Vandelay]

By the way, they should let the lgbt and femenist go fight since they want to pander to them so much. Buddy can put glitter on his AR15 and ride around in a pink hummer

 

[42 Monks]

Exactly they can pick up a weapon and commit treason if they’re really pissed off at the state

its so far beyond that shyt fr

like you can't even trust them to put gas in a vehicle. one person dedicated to making another person doesn't fukk up dramatically alters how much any individual or group can do top to bottom.

 

[duck]

Im against it

But if some of them rich fukks and polititians had kids that would possibly see a battefield, we'd probably be in alot less wars

 

[The_Sheff]

Explain how we don't have money for numerous social programs including feeding kids healthy food at school but we would have the money for the GI bill for every future citizen in the country.

 

[IIVI]

SNEAKIEST shyt is putting that military bill in with other laws:

House Republicans pass key military bill with new limits on abortion and DEI initiatives

The bill passed mostly along party lines after Democrats rebelled against a policy that would bar the Pentagon from funding travel expenses for service members to get an abortion.

www.nbcnews.com

It includes a 19.5% pay raise for junior enlisted service members and bigger allowances for food and housing.

But the bill was also amended to include a provision that would “prohibit the Secretary of Defense from paying for or reimbursing expenses relating to abortion services” — undoing a policy the Biden administration put in place in 2022. It echoes last year’s widely condemned protest by Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., who blocked military promotions for months in a failed bid to pressure the Pentagon to revoke its policy of paying travel expenses related to abortions.

While the NDAA passed out of the Armed Services Committee on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 57-1 vote, House Republicans then added several conservative amendments along party lines over the last two days once the bill made it to the House floor, making it controversial. That includes an amendment that would permanently freeze hiring for diversity, equity and inclusion (or DEI) jobs within the Defense Department and eliminate the department’s position of chief diversity officer. It would also bar the Tricare health care program from providing gender transition surgeries.

Rep. Pat Ryan, D-N.Y., said: “It’s a disgrace. I think, especially as somebody that served, to take a bill that should be about preparing for — and preventing — actual war and make it a culture war bill is really a disservice to our national security.”

The final defense policy will require a compromise between the House and Senate that can pass both chambers and be signed into law by President Joe Biden.

“Unsurprisingly, the legislation coming out of the House today is loaded with anti-LGBTQ, anti-choice, anti-environment, and other divisive amendments guaranteed not to pass the Senate,” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement.

So please tell me what does a mandatory service bill have to do with soldiers getting a 20% pay raise, DEI, the environment and healthcare????