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My only problem with nice guys is; they are "Nice" for a "reward" and that's what drive them crazy when they don't get what they want.


That's actually pretty good. thecoli will hate on point #1, but, I can't see anyone disagreeing with the rest.

There is no reward for being nice though. :heh: So if a person is being nice, in light of all of the evidence of it's ineffectiveness, then maybe...just maybe they are actually nice. :ld: Who exactly would be pleased about not getting what they want? :wtf:

What you said is nothing more than the BS that women tell themselves in order to rationalize their poor decision making. "He's only being nice because he wants to fukk although he's not being overly aggressive about fukking and actually treating me better than the dude I am fukking despite the fact that once again I am not fukking him...but yeah he's just in it for the reward. :youngsabo:" :mjlol:
 

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I think some women confuse nice with being a pushover. I want a nice man but I don't want a pushover.

If you know what you want, why arent YOU actively going after it? It's obviously not coming to you, so you either gotta change up your plan/(lack of) approach or keep talking about what you want while everyone else seeks out their happiness.
 

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Nobody REALLY knows what they want

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Oh they know...they just aren't honest enough with themselves to truly acknowledge it. A lot of chicks want to be put through the ringer with all kinds of drama and bullshyt. They just lie to themselves and others swearing they want "a nice guy" when the degenerates and knuckleheads do them dirty. A lot of guys want vapid, shallow tramps. They just lie to themselves and others swearing they want "a good girl" when those chicks reject/friendzone them.
 
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If you know what you want, why arent YOU actively going after it? It's obviously not coming to you, so you either gotta change up your plan/(lack of) approach or keep talking about what you want while everyone else seeks out their happiness.
You're right . I'm shy though.
 

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Ya'll took the wrong thing out of that.

That's my point; there are legitimate men, who hold themselves to a certain standard that doesn't include disrespect of women, of any kind.

Then, there's the "nice guy" aka simp. Anytime you try to trade "nice" things (food, clothes, jewelry, etc.) for favor, you're wrong.

Any Tom, dikk & Harry can give a women that. Hence, why it's not the best way to get a mate. You give her a genuine experience with another person, then, it's real.

No, a woman owes you nothing, because you show her a "good time." That's what I always thought was what a "simp" (vs. a real genuine guy) was; A guy who can't get why women don't want him, when all he offers are material things.

This is how dudes get blindsided by infidelity and being ignored. She got "friends" & girlfriends to take her out and give her gifts--that's what you become.

That's what I meant.
 

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If you know what you want, why arent YOU actively going after it? It's obviously not coming to you, so you either gotta change up your plan/(lack of) approach or keep talking about what you want while everyone else seeks out their happiness.

You're right . I'm shy though.

Thread could end here.
 

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No really, women don't work that way for the most part :manny:

While I agree, why don't they?

Personally, I don't bar that anymore from ladies today...we livin' in a New Jack World, and ladies can go get anything they want today
just like any man. So if anybody of mature age wants to be married and they aren't, maybe they need to switch their game up
instead of coming on the internet and talkin' under other peoples' clothes...
 

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Ya'll took the wrong thing out of that.

That's my point; there are legitimate men, who hold themselves to a certain standard that doesn't include disrespect of women, of any kind.

Then, there's the "nice guy" aka simp. Anytime you try to trade "nice" things (food, clothes, jewelry, etc.) for favor, you're wrong.

Any Tom, dikk & Harry can give a women that. Hence, why it's not the best way to get a mate. You give her a genuine experience with another person, then, it's real.

No, a woman owes you nothing, because you show her a "good time." That's what I always thought was what a "simp" (vs. a real genuine guy) was; A guy who can't get why women don't want him, when all he offers are material things.

This is how dudes get blindsided by infidelity and being ignored. She got "friends" & girlfriends to take her out and give her gifts--that's what you become.

That's what I meant.

Right, doing things,listening,and being there for her when she needs them is bred into simps.....so it probably is who some of them really are....But at the same time its a lot of naïve dudes who actually believe what these bytches be talking about when they are telling them "Im so sick of nikkas who don't care about me and are a$$holes,why cant I just meet a nice guy:usure:"....Dude take her at her word,put his :cape: on and go to work:mjlol:.....So as dumb as these nikkas are for continuously takin these women at their word...it has to be said that VOCALLY alotta women express they want for a nice guy,so its kinda tough blamin a nikka who expected something for bein nice when the woman has put it out there as that's everything she ever hoped for "just a nice guy to treat me right:usure:"....the women misrepresented herself:manny:,that would make anybody mad.

But simps can only blame theyself,they might end up that one "lucky" simp a woman falls for after she been ran thru and discarded by the type of nikkas she REALLY want:mjlol:...look at her actions and history,not what she SAYIN....same for women who listen to what men say and not what we do or have done btw:steviej:...like I say,both genders need to worry about being a smarter man if you a man,and a smarter woman if you a woman....not that old unnatural how can I be like the gender im not shyt:patrice:
 
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