How do any non autistic ppl still believe in organized religion?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Breh stop. At some point in your life you have, and you’ve also probably worn a Halloween costume. You observe pagan traditions all the time.

That would only apply to a Hebrew in Theocratic Israel 3,000 years ago.

New Testament and all that.

Christians aren't bound by Mosaic Law as it was 'fulfilled' when a little Jew got executed.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Start with that, then check this....

And after those, this is a good read....​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dude just out here telling lies

I NEVER lie. The truth is much more interesting, easily defensible, and I don't have to keep lies sorted out so I don't slip-up.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

How hard is it to clutch your pearls and put up your Christmas tree at the same time?​

Christmas trees aren't pagan.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Exactly, I don't put up Christmas trees.

You can if you want to. You're not 'doing as the pagans do'. If you'd rather not, no harm, no foul.​

 

[Chrishaune]

You can if you want to. You're not 'doing as the pagans do'. If you'd rather not, no harm, no foul.​

Nah, it is a clear tie to paganism to me. Tree worship was a thing and still is with tree huggers/climate change pushers.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Nah, it is a clear tie to paganism to me. Tree worship was a thing and still is with tree huggers/climate change pushers.

You aren't worshipping the tree, holmes.

Pagans wore clothing so, if you wanna take that prohibition literally.......

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[drederick tatum]

He decided religion wasn't for him when he discovered it was anti-bussy

 

[Chrishaune]

You aren't worshipping the tree, holmes.

Pagans wore clothing so, if you wanna take that prohibition literally.......

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I said for me. It's a clear tie to paganism. You can do what you want.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Thread title alone is

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I said for me. It's a clear tie to paganism.

How?

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[Chrishaune]

How?

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If you can't make the connection between tree worship that went on in European pagan culture and this tradition you need to look at more history. It's along the same lines as mother nature worship that goes on today. Bowing at the tree to receive your blessing.

"They worship creation rather than the Creator"

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

If you can't make the connection between tree worship that went on in European pagan culture and this tradition you need to look at more history. It's along the same lines as mother nature worship that goes on today. Bowing at the tree to receive your blessing.

"They worship creation more than the Creator"

You're not worshipping a tree OR 'nature' so that still doesn't make sense.

By your logic, since pagans lived in houses, Christians shouldn't.​

 

[Chrishaune]

You're not worshipping a tree so that still doesn't make sense.​

It's part of the full pagan package not the focus.... It's a side effect. It's not Jesus' birthday no matter what people say about that. What is it other than a pagan imposter posing as a day ordained by the Lord. It never was ordained as a day of worship. It's a Roman Catholic creation.

The origins of Christmas stem from both the pagan and Roman cultures. The Romans actually celebrated two holidays in the month of December. The first was Saturnalia, which was a two-week festival honoring their god of agriculture Saturn. On December 25th, they celebrated the birth of Mithra, their sun god.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

It's part of the full pagan package not the focus.... It's a side effect. It's not Jesus' birthday no matter what people say about that. What is it other than a pagan imposter posing as a day ordained by the Lord. It never was ordained as a day of worship. It's a Roman Catholic creation.

Incorrect. Christmas was created by Christians almost 200 years before there was a Roman Catholic Church.....​

No, the reason it's celebrated on the 25th is because Julius Africanus (Chronographiai 221 CE) calculated that date based on a tradition that arose starting with Tertullian (~220 CE) that Jesus was executed on March 25th. The tradition also held that he was executed on the same day as he was conceived. 9 months from March is December.

Paganism has nothing to do with it. That's a result of the 'History of Religions' school of thought that came about in the 18th Century. Christmas wasn't even a 'major' Christian holiday until the 9th Century and was denounced by Origen in 245 CE.​

As far as Saturnalia.....
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LOL, that has nothing to do with Christmas, breh.

December 25: no connection with Tammuz, Saturnalia, Sol Invictus & Mithras - Historum - History Forums

This date was not connected with Saturnalia. Saturnalia wasn't on December 25, it was typically celebrated on December 17, sometimes from December 14 to 17, and even when it was later extended to a week it still ended on December 23, not December 25.

The second is that we don't have any historical evidence indicating that Saturnalia was influential on the choice of December 25 as the date of the birth of Jesus, still less the much later celebration of the feast of the nativity which came to be known as Christmas. This absence of evidence isn't positive evidence that Saturnalia was not influential in such a way (that would be an argument from silence), but it is negative evidence contra-indicating the theory that Saturnalia was influential in such a way.​

And there is no evidence of Mithras being worshipped prior to Jesus. Matter of fact, ALL the evidence shows that Mithra worship came AFTER Jesus.

Word to Zeitgeist: The Movie.

Why are you parroting anti-Christian nonsense easily refuted by scholarship?​