How did a powerful black empowerment speech turn into a diss towards black men

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Why the disrespect? You over here hurling insults and ad hominems and I'm just trying to have a convo. Looks like you caught feelings babygirl. I don't have an ego and I've been chillin so far which is why I've been dapping and repping you.

Again, no one is saying that Celebs aren't on some level more influential than the average joe but their voice isn't more important than the next persons. Being famous doesn't automatically equal influence. If that were the case, shyt would've been changed for black people a long time ago. And in terms of what Jesse said, his words aren't going to have any impact on any mass level. Know why? Cuz better men and women have said the same shyt and nothing has changed. It's just more magnified in this age of social media. A few weeks from now you and others are gonna be doing the same shyt you been doing, and this speech will be an afterthought.

And if you think forums like these are representative of everyday black people, then you need to log the fukk off and detox yourself.

A sad reality and why I get upset but as time passes more passive because people disconnected from the real world. I currently stay in Liberty City, Miami; and people aren't thinking how we right on here. Not one soul cares about Jessie's speech. Business as usual.

 

[IWunD3r]

Where's the full savior then?

I liked the speech and I liked that he said it on platform that reached people. It's national news. The Justin Timberlake shyt is taking away from it some.

He put black men on the spot for their foolish consumerism.

Wrong he put blk ppl on the spot....

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Wrong he put blk ppl on the spot....

I stand corrected but I admit BET putting the cameras on black men slanted analysis.

 

[BrandonBanks]

I only heard part of the speech, and I saw some black women's responses on Twitter. And my thoughts were, they are easily impressed. Not all black women, just the ones overly praising dude for making a speech. How about being impressed by actual actions? I can't believe so many black women, and some black men as well, are still being easily impressed by empty words and t shirts. How about these rich nikkas actually teaming up and helping fund/start more black businesses together or something? Black ppl need an infrastructure, an economic base, not more empty words that sound good. Getting up and saying what ppl esp women want to hear is not gonna cut it for the 'black community' anymore, not for those of us who aren't morons. And yeah I'm doing something for any nikka who wants to quote me, I work closely with black youth to help them in education and career fields, and I run my own shyt

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

I only heard part of the speech, and I saw some black women's responses on Twitter. And my thoughts were, they are easily impressed. Not all black women, just the ones overly praising dude for making a speech. How about being impressed by actual actions? I can't believe so many black women, and some black men as well, are still being easily impressed by empty words and t shirts. How about these rich nikkas actually teaming up and helping fund/start more black businesses together or something? Black ppl need an infrastructure, an economic base, not more empty words that sound good

Well, he's actually been on his grind thus him getting the humanitarian award. He used the platform to say what needed to be said on a huge scale.

 

[Canon]

lowkey seems like a diss towards black women

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

Only a pawg goddess and a black man can raise such a great black man, amiright?

Gawd bless the pawg who raised the best black man alive. . Add him to the list with obama, another black man black women consider infallible.

You sound so jealous & stupid. When will black men take some f*cking accountability?

Why is it that many of you assume your actions are the consequence of someone else? If y'all are doing bad, it's either the white man's or black women's fault.If y'all are doing good it's because of a White woman.When the f*ck does it come down on Y'ALL? Stop being a weak little b*tch who whines about why you are the way you are and how the world does you so wrong & be a man for once & own up to your sh*t.

 

[315]

All out assault on nikkas on twitter right now

 

[philmonroe]

I only heard part of the speech, and I saw some black women's responses on Twitter. And my thoughts were, they are easily impressed. Not all black women, just the ones overly praising dude for making a speech. How about being impressed by actual actions? I can't believe so many black women, and some black men as well, are still being easily impressed by empty words and t shirts. How about these rich nikkas actually teaming up and helping fund/start more black businesses together or something? Black ppl need an infrastructure, an economic base, not more empty words that sound good. Getting up and saying what ppl esp women want to hear is not gonna cut it for the 'black community' anymore, not for those of us who aren't morons. And yeah I'm doing something for any nikka who wants to quote me, I work closely with black youth to help them in education and career fields, and I run my own shyt

Why don't you do something? Cats always on their they need to do this, that, and the other why don't you do it regarding bold? Oh shyt not the standard I work closely with the youths bullshyt coli answer with the added bonus of I run my own shyt. nikka probably work at a bootleg day care center exaggerating what he does. Y'all nikkas are mad funny on here. Do y'all cats know all of,y'all seem to work closely with the black youth? Last I check this ain't a big brother messageboard but we have a disportionate amount of cats doing this. I throw the challenge flag that most of y'all are lying. I don't know which ones but I can't believe it.

 

[BrandonBanks]

Well, he's actually been on his grind thus him getting the humanitarian award. He used the platform to say what needed to be said on a huge scale.

I stand corrected on him in particular, but I do still strongly believe that a lot of black men even wealthy ones do this type of thing just for praise...if some of these multimillionaire nikkas really cared like that they would link up and do some big shyt for blacks esp black women, instead of just a small few doing a little something here and there. Black women are extremely marginalized, an occasional shout out and mere pat on the head for being 'loyal' doesn't create black businesses/ job opportunities, houses, etc. I critique black women a lot but here's one area I gotta critique black men on, our pandering, empty promises, "I love you black Queens, the black woman is god" talk etc while not providing nearly enough economically for black women/children, this is where black men, celebrity and non celebrity are dropping the ball. Ppl in here are bringing up how most black men marry black women (which is true), but leaving out the amount of black men that aren't even marrying in the first place and leaving black women single mothers, aren't building anything for our people (I.e. businesses, fixing/cleaning up our communities instead of moving to white ones as soon as we get enough $), etc

The main reason I chose to start my own business was I saw a lack of black male entrepreneurs especially around my age, and even now I still see a lot of black men shytting on entrepreneurship, and trying to discourage other nikkas from pursuing it, when out of all groups of men in the U.S. we should be the most interested in it at this point

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

this would be unintentional ETHER for black women and black mothers though

This the shyt that has me

So white women know how to raise black men to appreciate black women more than black women themselves ?Sounds like more of an indictment on black women than anybody else.

I guess white women are really the better choice for black men since they help us to appreciate our blackness more than a black woman can

Now we can pawg and still be pro-black

@ These weak ass responses.

Anything for the heat to not be on black men huh? I forgot.

Jeese spoke all that real sh*t about how y'all NEED TO DO BETTER & that's your response? But oh, I forgot.

All the f*cked up black men in this world are due to either a black woman or a white man and never himself. F*cking Pathetic. Y'all should be embarrassed that you are even making such a claim.The black community will get no where when you have "men," (& when I say men that is a far reach) like you two.We NEED more Jesses.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

I stand corrected on him in particular, but I do still strongly believe that a lot of black men even wealthy ones do this type of thing just for praise...if some of these multimillionaire nikkas really cared like that they would link up and do some big shyt for blacks esp black women, instead of just a small few doing a little something here and there. Black women are extremely marginalized, an occasional shout out and mere pat on the head for being 'loyal' doesn't create black businesses/ job opportunities, houses, etc. I critique black women a lot but here's one area I gotta critique black men on, our pandering, empty promises, "I love you black Queens, the black woman is god" talk etc while not providing nearly enough economically for black women/children, this is where black men, celebrity and non celebrity dropping the ball. Ppl in here are bringing up how most black men marry black women (which is true), but leaving out the amount of black men that aren't even marrying in the first place and leaving black women single mothers, aren't building anything for our people (I.e. businesses, fixing/cleaning up our communities instead of moving to white ones as soon as we get enough $), etc

The main reason I chose to start my own business was I saw a lack of black male entrepreneurs especially around my age, and even now I still see a lot of black men shytting on entrepreneurship, and trying to discourage other nikkas from pursuing it, when out of all groups of men in the U.S. we should be the most interested in it at this point

Show us some examples of wealthy black men who do that for praise.

You'll be hard pressed to find it at all thus his acceptance speech being such a big deal.

Everything else I agree.

 

[richaveli83]

Some very miserable people on the internet

 

[RiffRaff]

Like a poster just said, we have guys in our community who go out of their way to show black women love EVERY SINGLE DAY! But it's all about who the message is coming from. Dudes on twitter been calling black women magic for years, and get maybe a couple retweets. The second one ignorant dude says "lmao bw are roaches" they start projecting on all of us saying we're so terrible to black women. The second a rapper of all people says something about black women, we're all so terrible to black women. The second some athlete chooses to date a white woman, we're all so terrible to black women. And I'm not even trying to split sides here, because both sides do it, we have to stop the sweeping projections. And we have to stop looking to rappers and athletes as the pillars of our communities. Not saying they can't or shouldn't have a positive platform, but we have WAY too many ladies who put too much stock in their interactions with black women and then use that to project on all of us. The Kyrie Irving incident is a perfect example of this.

 

[The_Truth]

Well, maybe black men should just have kids with white women from now on then.