how could you be against socialism/communism as a black person

[Ski Mask]

So continue being a broke loser then nikka

People with weak defeatist attitudes always lose

Im working on my goals, but im not going to spew bullshyt like you did talking about there's equal oppourtunity in this country like black wall street didn't happenEdit*(and are they weak defeatist losers for their town getting destroyed?).

 

[Spade]

Because sadly (as seen in this thread) people associate any mention of "socialism" or "communism" with the totalitarian governments of the U.S.S.R. and the People's Republic of China.

People advocating for more "socialist" policy or "Democratic Socialism" are not advocating for a U.S.S.R. style of government.

Basically people are advocating for libertarian socialism.

 

[skylove4]

We aren't talking about the 1800s though. We talking about now.

If you can't make it, just give up on life then. Why haven't you given up? What are doing instead of complaining?

Why do you agents/c00ns always think people who speak out against these situations and advocate for a better system benefitting everyone aren’t already “successful” and comfortable in life

some of us have empathy for our fellow man and understand we are only as strong as our weakest link.

I hope you’re just a c00nish teenager with your mindset, because if you’re a grown man who doesn’t understand this bullshyt system

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Why do you agents/c00ns always think people who speak out against these situations and advocate for a better system benefitting everyone aren’t already “successful” and comfortable in life

some of us have empathy for our fellow man and understand we are only as strong as our weakest link.

I hope you’re just a c00nish teenager with your mindset, because if you’re a grown man who doesn’t understand this bullshyt system

You in a thread advocating for Communism

 

[skylove4]

You in a thread advocating for Communism

I didn’t. You said one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard on this forum.

“Except everybody does have equal opportunities. A truly gifted kid will get full ride scholarships to the best schools.”

so you have to be called out

 

[King Jove]

Because sadly (as seen in this thread) people associate any mention of "socialism" or "communism" with the totalitarian governments of the U.S.S.R. and the People's Republic of China.

People advocating for more "socialist" policy or "Democratic Socialism" are not advocating for a U.S.S.R. style of government.

That's what 70 years of Red Scare propaganda does.

Advocating for single-payer healthcare means you're Fidel Castro now.

White Supremacist tried to act like Martin Luther King was the next Mao Zedong

It’s a pretty good illustration about how right-wing American politics are. People that Americans consider the left-wing party are right-wing in any other country. We have a two-party system and both parties are captured by corporate wealth.

They think the JOE BIDEN is a communist.



Joe Biden is a right-wing politician in Western European countries.

 

[EndDomination]

Anybody who knows history will be against communism.

The only revolutionary black organizations of the 20th century, including African governments - were either openly socialist or openly communist.

Sounds like you drink whatever Kool-Aid the white man tells you to drink.

 

[Genos]

Sounds like some broke boy babble to me.


Y'all 3 certs, 3 figs peoples need to get to bootstrapping.

So you support the enslavement of black people as it was in service of your God capitalism. Yes broke people didn't have slaves.

 

[horizon]

Not as dumb as you commies sound thinking you're going to get equality under a white liberal racist.

But if you're already white or a foreigner I guess you probably think it'll be all good

No one takes you serious outside the arcadium bro go back to posting god of war videos

 

[horizon]

Sounds like some broke boy babble to me.


Y'all 3 certs, 3 figs peoples need to get to bootstrapping.

This is what a white-identified black person looks like. The ultimate form of c00ning and capitalism programming

 

[EndDomination]

Because we don’t want to be slaves to the state?


Don’t read history brehs

How precisely would socialism or communism make you a "slave to the state?"
And how can you possibly square that with Black people quite literally having been, and continuing to be in many regions of the world, literal "slaves" under capitalism?

no comment on socialism, but communism? In the past I thought "the state has been what oppressed us, and you want to make it all powerful? a communist america does not stop being it from being america"

But now I am not so sure. I need more education on the topic, so I am interested in other's opinions.

Its worth looking into.
Communism is just the final stage of socialism, effectively the control of all production in the hands of the workers and a dissolution of the state that acts as a mediator between the workers and the owners of capital.

I'm not lowering my level because you cant keep up, fukk Communism

You're not an impressive enough person to be lowered breh, don't get a big head.

Communism has nothing to do with stopping individuals from "succeeding" (whatever you think that is).

Its about ensuring that everyone has the resources to live a happy and healthy life, in accordance with our current level of production.

shyt sounds good but it doesn't work.

And capitalism is?
The plundering of Africa and South America, the millions who are hungry, homeless, dying of disease - while there's an overabundance in the imperialist countries?
The deadening of genius in the developmental world because they weren't born on the right side of the border?

Look at China

that’s Communism at its worst

Socialism isn’t so bad

it’s the hardcore corporation bail out capitalism that’s poisonous

not a free market economy of small businesses

Also don’t tie race to political stances

China is state-capitalist.
Whar precisely in China is so bad? The millions pulled out of poverty? The massive social spending to end hunger, to educate, to build housing, to provide jobs?
How much of Black America is under state-supervision or incarcerated? How many are in crumbling public housing, in danger of illness and death?

Democratic socialism

Communism

Democratic socialism as a final goal? Not even that bad.

It’s not anti black but it ain’t pro black either

It was the driving ideology of much of Africa's liberation for decades.

 

[EndDomination]

It hasn’t been tried? So how would we know it wouldn’t work?

Not in full, it has been attempted - with varying degrees of success (QoL in Cuba versus Alabama or Missouri is a pretty clear indication that socialism certainly does work)

Well you can just look at the countries that are communist to see how well it works

Any of these countries not actively being undermined or destroyed by the U.S., France, U.K. or Germany?

Communism means everyone is treated equal and there are no social classss which means that the state would be forced to treat everyone regardless of race and gender equally.yes the state oppressed us but that was due to capitalism/slavery. The state was also helped to liberate us as well. Private corporations did nothing to help free the slaves it was the ferderal government

More or less this.

You saying black leaders was socialist sounds like false claims Hoover made

Huey Newton was a communist. Bobby Seale and Fred Hampton were communists. Patrice Lumumba, Steve Biko, Julius, Nyere, Stokely Carmichael, Kwame Nkrumah, W.E.B. Du Bois, C.L.R. James, Paul Robeson, The African Blood Brotherhood, the Black Panther Party - all communists.

 

[Son Goku]

This is what a white-identified black person looks like. The ultimate form of c00ning and capitalism programming

 

[EndDomination]

China is an autocratic oppressive state that is currently practicing genocide on the Uighur minority.

And is China's "autocratic" and "oppressive" state elements somehow socialist?
Is the U.S. not equally oppressive and autocratic?

Humans are selfish. Humans are greedy. Humans will always crave power and control. The elite will always try to gain leverage over the rest of society who will become the underclass, with some carving out a middle class lifestyle if they’re lucky. Under monarchies, you had Kings with absolute power. The ambitious self serving people became lords, dukes, knights, merchants, priests (sorry, the corrupt ones only), etc. Anything to be higher than the broke ass feudal laborers working the land. Under capitalism, you have the wealthy global elite who replaced the kings and powerful nobles, and then you have politicians, police, academics, lawyers, bankers, engineers, doctors, rich professionals, upper middle class, middle class workers replacing those groups from above who are still essentially working for the people running society like those groups above who did whatever to curry favor from kings. Under communism, what you think gonna happen? Government gonna attract everyone who’s after power and control just like you see in China. With the CCP having their hands in everything. The only difference is unlike in Capitalism where you have a 10% chance to make something of your life if you work hard enough and luck is on your side, you have a 1% chance to change anything in a system where your life is completely predetermined. You think you gonna be having no rent, all your expenses met and big booty girls assigned to your lame ass. Nah breh, you gonna be doing some wack ass job like digging ditches for 50 years just like them muthafukkas in Xinjiang still living like it’s the 1700s or some sh*t. If you don’t like your cac managers now, you gonna hate when they’re the ones determining your food rations and your housing options Motherfukkas hate politicians but want a system where “politicians” would have complete power. Make it make sense breugh. In BOTH communism and capitalism, trust and believe, there will be a massive underclass and a tiny class in control. But in only one do you have a fighting chance.

You really want the state telling you what you must do and how much you are allowed? Communism can work in small groups where everyone is on the same page, but not on a large scale. People will want more and some will resist. What will you do with the resistors? Virtually every Communist country murdered them en masse.

Capitalism has it's problems, but they pale in comparison to the problems of Communism.

The state doesn't tell you what to do?

This is a bad example.

Someone can retort that republic democracy and capitalism is what gave US its independence and status as worlds most powerful country.

And in both cases neither point has anything to do with prospectic lives of a black person living therein.

If you think comnunism has benefitted the social outcast and indigenous in China .... yikes

It certainly has considering their quality of life has undeniably gone up

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I didn’t. You said one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard on this forum.

“Except everybody does have equal opportunities. A truly gifted kid will get full ride scholarships to the best schools.”

so you have to be called out

You have a defeatist attitude and them types of people always lose in life. Take from that what you will