How Come Y'all Sorry Ass Nxggas Crying About The State of The NBA

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Lmao disingenuous paragraphs and nikkas be makin it seem like it’s the fans job to like the league… fukk no; the league is supposed to appeal to the fans and draw in consumers

Isn't the league doing just that?

30% of Americans are fans of the NBA, up from 27% in 2019, a new report finds.

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Between 2016 and 2023, the number of basketball participants in the U.S. increased by 33 percent (U.S. Americans who played basketball 2023 | Statista)

 

[Remote]

Remember a few years ago when the Spurs were the only team shooting a bunch of midrange shots with LaMarcus Aldridge and Demar DeRozan...quite literally the 1990s and 2000s style of basketball....and nobody on this board praised their style of play because they were bad teams?

Pepperidge Farms remembers



This board has zero consistency and there's no rationale to any of it.

The only thing that makes sense is that NBA fans are miserable and will complain about everything.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Big Screech with the speech

 

[murksiderock]

And another thing about this topic, and idk if I’m the only one that feels like this, but I couldn’t care less about watching sports, I’m only into actual playing the game in real life, I can’t sit and watch anything anymore

I can watch NFL more consistently. Only time I really had an NFL drought was for a few year stretch, late 10s into early 20s, as the players from my youth phased out...

NFL is the only sport I've consistently been able to watch over 25 years...

NCAAF and NBA always go in waves. There are stretches I can't watch em, there are stretches they are must-watch. MLB for years has always been mostly playoffs for me. I just got into NHL when i moved here to Raleigh in 2019 and got caught in the Canes fandom (they a big deal here). I can watch their playoffs too...

MLS, might catch a game a year or casually peruse their postseason. I havent watched regular season college basketball like that in many, many years. Dont watch college in any other sport at all...

Only thing I actually play is basketball, lot of courts around here. But I feel where you're coming from!

Based on what?

White folks make up the largest piece of the consumers pie, and he's not even in the top-10 for jersey sales. Even Giannis is in the top-5 and he isn't even American. Unless you're saying that White Americans love all star players.

I think I have a fair reason as to why you find it unwatachable at the moment, but entertain me - what would make it watchable for you?

Conspiracy theorist like a typical Coli nikka...

But sure, Bron aging out has dimmed the viewability of NBA for me. I still watch the playoffs though, and Bron fandom doesn't explain why I had these down waves of viewability in the mid-00s and first half of the 10s. He was around in those times too...

I think dynasties have always made the NBA more exciting. And I think The League, while obviously as talented as ever, is at a deficit of true superstar talent, the NBA is more watchable with more guys with those outsized personas...

As I said regular season has always been hit or miss for me. The current game is lagging NFL, NCAAF, and the recent MLB in excitement, those sports are just more fun to watch at present...

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Despite the issues in style of play, there isn’t a an overall popularity issue with the NBA. It is by far the most popular sport when it comes to social media and the internet. The quality of play is another story due to player development but that’s for another day.

The audience is different than the NFL, which consists of mostly older, uneducated people that like watching people get brain damage, so it’s unsurprising they still consume their games on cable . Teams also only play once a week. It was never a fair comparison to put the two leagues against each other.

The 3-point shooting contests and load managing are a bit unbearable night to night but there are always good games to be found.

 

[TrillaMonsoon]

Football is very easy to consume and talk about and feel smart about talking about to other Football fans. Most of the games are on national TV or big streaming service so everything is right there for you.

But I'm a fan who just watches the games and doesn't get too involved in the other shyt because it has no impact of me enjoying the sports I enjoy watching. I've always watched for the games and j think a decent amount of basketball fans worked themselves into a shoot with how they discuss and consume basketball discussions so their really sick of how THEY themselves enjoyed the game now they make up any reason it's the games fault and not theirs

I just don't know how people who actually like basketball say it doesn't matter til playoffs when I find it fun to see how young players/teams improve over a year, how rotations change and players finding their identity. I root for all the best players to be great because the league is great when the best players are healthy and playing well.

A lot of people got into rings or nothing, just hating on the top stars because I guess that shows how smart you are to dislike really great players. People are just fukking babies and always looking to blame the things around them instead of realizing maybe you're just becoming a crusty old curmudgeon who you said you'd never become

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Conspiracy theorist like a typical Coli nikka...

I'm been accused of many a thing on here, but this has got to be the first time I've been called a "conspiracy theorist".



I don't know how that all fits in with this, but I digress.

But sure, Bron aging out has dimmed the viewability of NBA for me. I still watch the playoffs though, and Bron fandom doesn't explain why I had these down waves of viewability in the mid-00s and first half of the 10s. He was around in those times too...

I think dynasties have always made the NBA more exciting.

Wait, what?

You think dynasties make the NBA more exciting, but didn't find the first half of the 10s watchable with the Bron/Heat dynasty?

I mean, there's absolutely nothing inherently wrong with finding the league unwatchable when your favorite player/team isn't having success, I think that's what a lot more folks should be honest about, rather than coming up with these falsehoods about the game to cover up that fact.

And I think The League, while obviously as talented as ever, is at a deficit of true superstar talent, the NBA is more watchable with more guys with those outsized personas...

Did Steph have an "outsized persona" when he rose to superstardom?

There's plenty of true superstar talents in the league right now. I think more to the point there is that none of them are American, and that's the root cause of all this resistance to what the league has become on this board.

 

[staticshock]

Jokic's great of course.

But I think people mostly miss seeing the hunger and drive within the league. Top players wanting to play everygame. Great athletism, tough defense, overall high competetivess of the regular season. A flabby looking dude doesn't really inspire confidence.

Even Jokic himself is very lazy on defense except for grabbing rebounds.
We are tired of Half-assed shot contests with one hand. Most of the time you have defenders just assuming the shooter will make the shot. It's not an all star game.

It's just so damn lazy. You can stay above . 500 and sneak into the playoffs via the play-in. This means you can start watching the NBA in late February and not moss anything important.

this is a casual ass take
I watch the NBA every day because on any given night, someone can go off for 50 points, someone can put on a defensive masterclass, to see the development of young players and to see matchups.

what the fukk do you nikkas watch for?

 

[Harry B]

People just need to say that they don't find excessive amount of 3 point shooting fun.

It's basically like Mayweather and Pacquiao, casuals who don't like to see all the "boring" stuff like the advanced strategies, plays, statistics driven basketball. But instead they say taht the players are ass and defense non-existent cause they don't understand nor watch it.

Then you have oldheads saying defense is ass cause teams are putting up mad points, fot no other reason than to say that they would also do that if they played today. Of course defense is "tougher" when need to get 3 yards from the rim to score.

 

[010101]

THE shytE YOU SWEAR YOU WANT BACK IS THE STYLE OF PLAY OLD-SCHOOL STANS CRIED ABOUT

so what's the constant¿

negative crybaby stans ruin shyte no matter what it is HA

*

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This nikka be in here saying anything

Defense is NOT better than it’s ever been, in fact it’s the worst it’s ever been in any era

Best Defensive Rating NBA By Decade | StatMuse

best defensive rating NBA by decade

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That's not how you measure defenses when comparing eras.

Those defensive ratings are based on the offenses during those seasons. Do you even know how defensive ratings work?

According to your logic, you could transport teams from the 70s and they'd just miraculously know how to defend 3-pt shots and all the different actions in today's game that weren't present back then. The game had barely broken out of its infancy in the 70s where defenses were only in their early stages of having a framework, coming up against offenses that were at the same stage.

Defenses over the last 5-10 years have come a long way since this -


How could you possibly think that using defensive ratings (which are based on scoring per 100 possessions) across diferent eras when offenses are vastly different from era to era, is in any way, shape or form reflective of how good/bad a defense is?

 

[Dwight Howard]

The problem isn't the talent, the problem is the fact the league can't shake how insignificant the regular season feels. Teams don't seem to care

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This cat really believes because the defensive ratings from the 70s were better that it means those defenses are better than the ones today.

Lord have mercy.

It really shows the ignorance (or lies) that folks are willing to convince themselves of to push an agenda.

 

[ItWasWritten]

That's not how you measure defenses when comparing eras.

Those defensive ratings are based on the offenses during those seasons. Do you even know how defensive ratings work?

According to your logic, you could transport teams from the 70s and they'd just miraculously know how to defend 3-pt shots and all the different actions in today's game that weren't present back then. The game had barely broken out of its infancy in the 70s where defenses were only in their early stages of having a framework, coming up against offenses that were at the same stage.

Defenses over the last 5-10 years have come a long way since this -


How could you possibly think that using defensive ratings (which are based on scoring per 100 possessions) across diferent eras when offenses are vastly different from era to era, is in any way, shape or form reflective of how good/bad a defense is?

The defenders would adjust.... just like the NBA adjusted when they seen what those two waffle nikkaz was doing in Oakland...
Do you have actual hard data or are you just talking out your ass

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This is the worst defensive era ever, in part because the NBA doesnt wan't these nikkaz defending at all

Go to sleep POPS

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

What we've established is:

The percentage of NBA fans has risen to 30% of all Americans, since it was 27% in 2019.
The percentage of people playing basketball in the US has increased by 33% (from 2016 to 2023).
The NBA has just signed a $76 billion media rights deal.

And yet Coli members and the echo chambers they exist in believe the NBA is dying because nobody is watching the product.

The Age of Misinformation. We're in the deep end.