How come hiphop doesn look at Wayne as a godfather like it does HOV and NAS

[wingstop]

Bro, no disrespect , but how can you say something so absolute. When I'm telling you that I know people that were calling those albums classics when they came out and now. Stop trying to speak for millions of people man

Just because you personally don't think that some albums are classics, it doesn't mean that others agree with you. For example I know nikkaz that don't consider Illmatic or RD clasics. Some people believe that TM101 is a classic , others disagree.

But for you to flat out say some shyt like "nobody called Carters 1-3 classics when they came out" is simply absurd

People call anything classics lmfaoo. I dont care what the average person thinks, im talking about hip hop heads, like people who know their shyt. But whatever go ahead and think the carter 3 is classic and think it got amazing reception when it came out and that people werent complaining that the leaks were way better. Tbh shyts not even good enough to be a classic album like that, its definitely a step down from the first 2 carters and mixtapes

lol at saying the carter is a classic but then accusing people of rewriting history

Youre out here saying other people are rewriting history but youre doing the same

 

[ManBearPig]

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Carter 1-3 are all classics. Why do people try to rewrite history

I actually don't mind Carter 3 being a classic the way it impacted rap at the time.


The first 2 carters were just Wayne thinking he jay-z and pusha T. Those are 8 out of 10 albums and that's it

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

Did you just compare Wayne to Marvin Gaye

I'm done

I name dropped one of the best R&B singers that evert did it to prove my point. I could've just as easily said Wayne is no Chris Brown

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I name dropped one of the best R&B singers that evert did it to prove my point. I could've just as easily said Wayne is no Chris Brown

Who ever called Wayne an R&B Artist?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

People call anything classics lmfaoo. I dont care what the average person thinks, im talking about hip hop heads, like people who know their shyt. But whatever go ahead and think the carter 3 is classic and think it got amazing reception when it came out and that people werent complaining that the leaks were way better. Tbh shyts not even good enough to be a classic album like that, its definitely a step down from the first 2 carters and

lol at saying the carter is a classic but then accusing people of rewriting history

Youre out here saying other people are rewriting history but youre doing the same

This is the 3rd time that you've moved the goal post

Just be fair and say that you disagree with people who think that Carters 1-3 are classics and leave it that fam

You simply can not accept the opinions of others

@Living Proof just said that carter 3 is a classic. But I guess you're gonna ignore that too

 

[wingstop]

This is the 3rd time that you've moved the goal post

Just be fair and say that you disagree with people who think that Carters 1-3 are classics and leave it that fam

You simply can not accept the opinions of others

@Living Proof just said that carter 3 is a classic. But I guess you're gonna ignore that too

when did i ever move the goal post. I said in like the first post that people call anything classics and wayne stans are the only ones to think all 3 are classics.


Im talking about general consensus
but here you are moving the goal post of your original point of you accusing people of rewriting history when you are the one rewriting history

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

Who ever called Wayne an R&B Artist?

I never called him an R&B artist, but I used the comparison for his singing tracks. His last major released album lead single was "How to Love" which was a horrible singing track with auto tune

 

[Black Bolt]

Thread's premise is disrespectful to Nas & Jay

 

[Ronnie Lott]

when did i ever move the goal post. I said in like the first post that people call anything classics and wayne stans are the only ones to think all 3 are classics.


Im talking about general consensus
but here you are moving the goal post of your original point of you accusing people of rewriting history when you are the one rewriting history

You're making yourself look more silly...Some people do consider Carters 1-3 classic. Some consider 1 out of the 3, some 2 out of 3. I'm not understanding why someone has to be a Stan tho

But I'll let you cook bro

 

[boydangerous]

to me Wayne doesn't have any body of work that really stands the test of time he dumbed his content down for the the fans at the time he was hot and his quality took a hit and he never recovered

 

[wingstop]

You're making yourself look more silly...Some people do consider Carters 1-3 classic. Some consider 1 out of the 3, some 2 out of 3. I'm not understanding why someone has to be a Stan tho

But I'll let you cook bro

your whole argument was flawed and you moved the goal post on every post, let me break it down

You first said this, like what you think was the general consensus and that you were right lmfaooo

Carter 1-3 are all classics. Why do people try to rewrite history

Then you said this, trying to change the point

Are you saying that you never heard ANYONE ever say that any of those albums were classics?

Then youre trying to act like im the one who was being absurd and you didnt do the same thing

Bro, no disrespect , but how can you say something so absolute. When I'm telling you that I know people that were calling those albums classics when they came out and now. Stop trying to speak for millions of people man

Just because you personally don't think that some albums are classics, it doesn't mean that others agree with you. For example I know nikkaz that don't consider Illmatic or RD clasics. Some people believe that TM101 is a classic , others disagree.

But for you to flat out say some shyt like "nobody called Carters 1-3 classics when they came out" is simply absurd

Then you tried to make it look like im moving the goal post

This is the 3rd time that you've moved the goal post

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Carter 1-3 are all classics. Why do people try to rewrite history

Stop it Bruh, start off by saying carter 3 Is fukking horrible.

Carter 1 Is a great album, carter 2 is as close to classic as he will ever get

 

[Robbie3000]

Cause

 

[ThaRealness]

Wayne is just the town drunk

 

[Ronnie Lott]

your whole argument was flawed and you moved the goal post on every post, let me break it down

You first said this, like what you think was the general consensus and that you were right lmfaooo


Then you said this, trying to change the point


Then youre trying to act like im the one who was being absurd and you didnt do the same thing



Then you tried to make it look like im moving the goal post

Smileys won't help your argument

Here are the facts: some people consider Carters 1-3 as classics. Some don't. You can't accept that , so I'm not sure why you're going back and forth

Some consider at least 1 or 2 of them, some think that all 3 are.. You said that in order for someone to think that all 3 are classics then they must be stans

Then you said that a person has to be "a real hip hop head" for you to take their opinion serious


I never said the general consensus was that people thought that 1-3 were all classics. Please quote be where I said those exact words