How come Baltimore and DC never produced any rappers?

IllmaticDelta

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lol. Nobody in DC or PG County will claim the south. And I mean absolutely no one.

Dude, my grandma;her siblings; her grandparents etc..when they were alive (all those mentioned were born in the later 1800s-1920s) were from all of those regions and always claimed those places as the South:unimpressed:

Take for example: Eubie Blake who was born in Baltimore in the early 1880s




Out of his own mouth:

in 1983, on being asked why his compositions contained so many sharps and flats] Down South where I come from you don't go around hitting too many white keys.

Eubie Blake - Biography - IMDb
 

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Dude, my grandma;her siblings; her grandparents etc..when they were alive (all those mentioned were born in the later 1800s-1920s) were from all of those regions and always claimed those places as the South:unimpressed:

Take for example: Eubie Blake who was born in Baltimore in the early 1880s




Out of his own mouth:



Eubie Blake - Biography - IMDb


Well I'm from MD and no one i know personally claims the south. Older or younger. It may have been like that back then but not now. It's below the Mason Dixon line but no one claims the south.
 

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Dude, my grandma;her siblings; her grandparents etc..when they were alive (all those mentioned were born in the later 1800s-1920s) were from all of those regions and always claimed those places as the South:unimpressed:

Take for example: Eubie Blake who was born in Baltimore in the early 1880s




Out of his own mouth:



Eubie Blake - Biography - IMDb



Nobody in 2020 considers DC and MD the south. DC and MD barely even share anything culturally with the south now. Why is that so hard for some of y’all to understand?
 

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Dude, my grandma;her siblings; her grandparents etc..when they were alive (all those mentioned were born in the later 1800s-1920s) were from all of those regions and always claimed those places as the South:unimpressed:

Take for example: Eubie Blake who was born in Baltimore in the early 1880s




Out of his own mouth:



Eubie Blake - Biography - IMDb


Nobody looks at them as southern. I would say the south starts at North Carolina
 

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Well I'm from MD and no one i know personally claims the south. Older or younger. It may have been like that back then but not now. It's below the Mason Dixon line but no one claims the south.


Nobody looks at them as southern. I would say the south starts at North Carolina

Hey, historical facts are what they are regardless of modern perceptions



The American South is wide and varied, but there are a few factors that seem to define its history and its present. Some of these—a large English and Irish population, an agrarian economy, large rural swaths, high church attendance, lower incomes and cost of living, and political conservatism—don’t bear much resemblance to D.C. Others—a large African-American population, some native flora—do. According to Tamika Richeson, a history Ph.D. candidate at the University of Virginia specializing in the 19th century who has studied the history of D.C., the time the District most resembled the South was before the Civil War.

At its conception, it was very Southern,” she says. “It was very rural, surrounded by two of the largest slave-holding states in the country. Its customs were very informed by Maryland and Virginia. It had a very Southern way about it.”

The most Southern thing about Washington was slavery. “Slavery was very much part of the landscape,” Richeson says. “D.C. was a place, prior to the Civil War, where slaves came from everywhere. I mean everywhere.” Marylanders and Virginians with a surplus of slaves could “hire out” to the District, a practice that was popular in Southern cities like Charleston, S.C., and New Orleans. “It was built on the backs of slaves,” Richeson says, “which, in that way, would make D.C. very Southern
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Is the District of Columbia in or part of ‘the South’?
 

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1. Go Go and House Music were staple genres in DC and Bmore respectively so other than free styling on the block, buying tapes, and going to shows, there wasn’t much in the way of a Rap tradition. Go Go Bands have singers and rappers so that filled the void locally.

2. Lots of politics in the local scene, fake gatekeepers, and a lot of hatin ass nikkaz that don’t support

3. Not enough infrastructure to mass produce quality artists.

I’d say those are the main reasons. I see it gradually changing in the DMV but it’s still gonna take time before there’s an outright explosion of artists from the Mid Atlantic region. But there’s definitely a burgeoning arts scene in the DMV.

The issue imo was the schism between DC and NYC in the 80s. Growing up, NY shyt was considered corny outsider shyt but nikkaz couldn’t deny rap. I just think it still prevented a lot of people from getting into it fr. Ironically, this might be one of the few places where East Coast and Southern Music are both appreciated. It’s hella oldheads that are No Limit stans and Lox stans. :ehh:

Edit: The Mid Atlantic was historically the upper south. And lots of migrations helped to give it a bit of a southern touch to it. But DC is very blended between northeast and south. So no one really considers it the south. BMore to me is a bit more northern. It’s really is a southern Philly.
 
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1. Go Go and House Music we’re staple genres in DC and Bmore respectively so other than free styling on the block, buying tapes, and going to shows, there wasn’t much in the way of a Rap tradition. Go Go Bands have singers and rappers so that filled the void locally.

2. Lots of politics in the local scene, fake gatekeepers, and a lot of hatin ass nikkaz that don’t support

3. Not enough infrastructure to mass produce quality artists.

I’d say those are the main reasons. I see it gradually changing in the DMV but it’s still gonna take time before there’s an outright explosion of artists from the Mid Atlantic region. But there’s definitely a burgeoning arts scene in the DMV.

Edit: The Mid Atlantic was historically the upper south. And lots of migrations helped to give it a bit of a southern touch to it. But DC is very blended between northeast and south. BMore to me is a bit more northern. It’s really is a southern Philly.

The radio nikkas were scared to break artists and records. Besides Funk Regulata Celo, Iran, and Alizay it seemed like the radio nikkas were more worried about being accepted by the go-go community. Also, it took us a while to find our voice. Rapping was bama shyt back in the day, unfortunately. Then when we did rap, nikkas was sounding like Face or on some super backpack shyt.
 

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The radio nikkas were scared to break artists and records. Besides Funk Regulata Celo, Iran, and Alizay it seemed like the radio nikkas were more worried about being accepted by the go-go community. Also, it took us a while to find our voice. Rapping was bama shyt back in the day, unfortunately. Then when we did rap, nikkas was sounding like Face or on some super backpack shyt.

Exactly, it’s a lot of factors involved so I forgot the radio. Only local shyt they ever played was Go Go. And like you said, to do any NYC type things was bama shyt. Its one thing to listen to it but a lot of nikkaz ain’t want to actually do it. That’s why rappers leave to ATL or LA or NYC and it leaves the area dry because nothing is being grown organically here like in ATL, Miami, Memphis, Chicago, Detroit, etc.

It’s funny tho you right. It’s a sharp contrast it’s either some backpack shyt or some trapped out gangsta shyt. Not too much inbetween, which is crazy considering all the conscious thugs in the area lol. I feel like it’s gon get better tho. I mean shyt, BMore and DC have definitely held the R&B game down.
 

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So, no. DMV isn't considered the south by people who are from there.

Did you just miss everything I posted? You mean YOU or modern inhabitants who live there don't consider it the South, TODAY. This has and can easily be proven false on a historical level. My ancestors who were born at least 100 years ago that I witnessed in the flesh who were also born and raised in those regions, considered Maryland, DC, Delaware and Virgina: The South.


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