How can you claim to be against white supremacy, but still perpetuate its legacy?

[godkiller]

So the question should be why those benefits aren't making it to blacks. Not trying to prevent immigrants. The systemic problems still exist. Attacking immigrants won't change them.

I already explained why immigration benefits don't make it to blacks but maybe you'll understand better from academics and researchers:

"Vernon M. Briggs, Jr., professor emeritus in labor economics at Cornell, has noted that both illegal immigrant and black workers tend to "cluster in metropolitan areas," thus increasing the likelihood that they will compete for the same jobs. Dr. Briggs adds, "there is little doubt that there is significant overlap in competition for jobs in this sector of the labor market. Given the inordinately high unemployment rates for low-skilled black workers (the highest for all racial and ethnic groups for whom data is collected), it is obvious that the major loser in this competition are low-skilled black workers. This is not surprising, since if employers have an opportunity to hire illegal immigrant workers, they will always give them preference over legal workers of any race or ethnic background..."

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This is essentially what @marcuz 's example delineates is happening in LA when it comes to Mexicans taking black jobs.

Whites claim immigrants are taking their jobs too.

The numbers say that immigrants don't take much white jobs, but actually affect groups like black people more. This is not a question of opinion but facts and numbers. Blacks must do what is best for blacks and support what is best for blacks. Living with whites and Mexicans are two evils we would rather not have, but if we must choose one, we must choose the best one.

White supremacy is bolstered by the poor fighting over the scraps they throw out. Fighting immigrants for scraps gets us nowhere. Lets say we stop immigration, then we are still stuck doing shytty jobs for no pay. There's no real benefit to black people. I don't think we should be striving for the opportunity to keep immigrant jobs.

White supremacy is also bolstered by blacks being more impoverished and incarcerated as a function of immigrant ethnic cleansing and white favoritism. So it is one devil or another. Blacks in the South live better than blacks in the West and have more opportunities for employment and livelihood so obviously that devil is better than the immigration one. Blacks are not "stuck" with shytty jobs with less unemployment. Blacks have the opportunity to move up which will never happen if blacks are all but relegated to the furthest reaches of un-society when Mexicans take over what little jobs black may have. Ultimately blacks must work with what we have. Making things worse only makes things worse.

 

[godkiller]

It's not even about the jobs

We can't break down white supremacy without addressing all the groups who enforce white supremacy.

Asians, Arabs, Latin and so on do enforce white supremacy

Yes some blacks do as well but they're us and can contribute to our race. Yellow and brown people do nothing for us at best and harm us at worst

Exactly. I have nothing else to add.

 

[Faneto]

Exactly. I have nothing else to add.

I find it funny how certain coli militants can go Ham on CACs (rightfully so) but when it comes to other POC

If you can't recognize that whites aren't the only race who enforce white supremacy than you have an extremely elementary understanding of white supremacy because this shyt is global

Should have seen twitter after the Mayweather fight

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I already explained why immigration benefits don't make it to blacks but maybe you'll understand better from academics and researchers:

"Vernon M. Briggs, Jr., professor emeritus in labor economics at Cornell, has noted that both illegal immigrant and black workers tend to "cluster in metropolitan areas," thus increasing the likelihood that they will compete for the same jobs. Dr. Briggs adds, "there is little doubt that there is significant overlap in competition for jobs in this sector of the labor market. Given the inordinately high unemployment rates for low-skilled black workers (the highest for all racial and ethnic groups for whom data is collected), it is obvious that the major loser in this competition are low-skilled black workers. This is not surprising, since if employers have an opportunity to hire illegal immigrant workers, they will always give them preference over legal workers of any race or ethnic background..."

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This is essentially what @marcuz 's example delineates is happening in LA when it comes to Mexicans taking black jobs.

So its the societal structure of America(white supremacy) that creates the situation.

Why would we fight immigrants, instead of the societal structure that places us in competition for scraps.

The numbers say that immigrants don't take much white jobs, but actually affect groups like black people more. This is not a question of opinion but facts and numbers. Blacks must do what is best for blacks and support what is best for blacks. Living with whites and Mexicans are two evils we would rather not have, but if we must choose one, we must choose the best one.

Fighting white supremacy is what's best for black people. Fighting other victims of white supremacy is a distraction.

White supremacy is also bolstered by blacks being more impoverished and incarcerated as a function of immigrant ethnic cleansing and white favoritism.

You are really overblowning this. Immigration is the last thing on the list that leads to poverty and prison for blacks. Hell a black person has to be living in poverty to compete with immigrants in the first place. We should be fighting to get out of poverty, not fighting other people for our little piece of it.

So it is one devil or another. Blacks in the South live better than blacks in the West and have more opportunities for employment and livelihood

You got proof of this? Sounds contrary to what I know.

so obviously that devil is better than the immigration one. Blacks are not "stuck" with shytty jobs with less unemployment. Blacks have the opportunity to move up which will never happen if blacks are all but relegated to the furthest reaches of un-society when Mexicans take over what little jobs black may have. Ultimately blacks must work with what we have. Making things worse only makes things worse.

So we should concentrate in moving up not fighting for shytty jobs.

White supremacy fights agains immigration cause it reduces whites power. A reduction in the power of white supremacy is a win for black people. You should be weary of any stance that white supremacy supports.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I find it funny how certain coli militants can go Ham on CACs (rightfully so) but when it comes to other POC

If you can't recognize that whites aren't the only race who enforce white supremacy than you have an extremely elementary understanding of white supremacy because this shyt is global

Should have seen twitter after the Mayweather fight

Racism =/= white supremacy

A lot of racist white people are adversely affected by white supremacy.

A lot of black people promote it.

 

[PhonZhi]

The most popular rappers are not the ones promoting destruction.

You sound EXTREMELY out of touch breh

 

[Matt504]

Racism =/= white supremacy

A lot of racist white people are adversely affected by white supremacy.

A lot of black people promote it.

Racism IS white supremacy and white supremacy IS racism.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You sound EXTREMELY out of touch breh

Chief keef was dropped from his label for lack of interest in his music.

Future and young thug and two chainz just flopped.

The ones selling millions of records and selling out stadiums, are not the ones y'all like to prop up.

Again, just like white supremacy taught you, you will bring up the worst of the worst about black people while pretending the positive doesn't exist.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Racism IS white supremacy and white supremacy IS racism.

Nah.

White supremacy is a system of oppression. And the preservation of a status quo

Racism is an opinion.

One doesn't have to be racist to promote white supremacy.

And all racist people don't automatically support it.

 

[Faneto]

Racism =/= white supremacy

A lot of racist white people are adversely affected by white supremacy.

A lot of black people promote it.

Most racism is indirectly caused by white supremacy

 

[Matt504]

Nah.

White supremacy is a system of oppression.

Racism is an opinion.

One doesn't have to be racist to promote white supremacy.

Racism isn't an opinion, it's a system of oppression. Racism is white supremacy.

The only racists on this planet are white, because they're the only group in position to be, other groups can be bigots or prejudice but not racist.

 

[PhonZhi]

Chief keef was dropped from his label for lack of interest in his music.

Future and young thug and two chainz just flopped.

The ones selling millions of records and selling out stadiums, are not the ones y'all like to prop up.

Again, just like white supremacy taught you, you will bring up the worst of the worst about black people while pretending the positive doesn't exist.

you never responded to my post about you not being able to come up with a song about whites singing about white genocide. marcuz came up with yet another one about "killin nikkaz and sippin lean". We're asking for ONE Mr. Monster. One song thats in the mainstream about whites killing whites

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Most racism is indirectly caused by white supremacy

Yes. White supremacy teaches divisiveness.

But just because a person is racist, doesn't mean they bolster white supremacy.

A Mexican can come here and hate black people as much as he wants. He's still a victim of white supremacy

 

[godkiller]

So its the societal scrucure of America(white supremacy) that creates the situation.

Why would we fight immigrants, instead of the societal structure that places us in competition for scraps.

Because black people having stable jobs and money starting from the bottom all the way to the top is the only way to affect societal structure. Being even more impoverished, incarcerated and isolated from society is worse for blacks and is what will inevitably happen with more immigrants.

Fighting white supremacy is what's best for black people. Fighting other victims of white supremacy is a distraction.

And the way to fight white supremacy is this instance is to vote and advocate and work against immigrants taking black men's jobs and further pushing black men into irrelevancy, crime, mental illness, poverty and misery. Blacks must step on other people to survive just as whites have and continue to do. Such is the natural way of things.

You are really overblowning this. Immigration is the last thing on the list that leads to poverty and prison for blacks. Hell a black person has to be living in poverty to compete with immigrants in the first place. We should be fighting to get out of poverty, not fighting other people for our little piece of it.

Studies say that immigration leads to poverty and prison for blacks. While blacks live in a type of poverty, things can always be worse. American ghettos are rich and beautiful compared to poor places in the rest of the world, including Mexico. The way to get out of poverty is not to cut off your nose by inviting more competition and losing for it. Whites didn't win America by allowing Natives to compete with them. Whites won America by KILLING OFF Native competition. Resources are finite and blacks need to step on to step up. Oh fukking well.

You got proof of this? Sounds contrary to what I know.

Blacks are leaving the West in massive numbers and migrating to the South. What more proof do you want that the West is not for blacks?

So we should concentrate in moving up not fighting for shytty jobs.

White supremacy fights agains immigration cause it reduces whites power. A reduction in the power of white supremacy is a win for black people. You should be weary of any stance that white supremacy supports.

Fighting for shytty jobs is how we move up. Honest work teaches a man discipline, work ethic, organization, sales, among other skills. Honest work gives a man direction and disposable income. The majority of people in any race are only average. They simply can't become doctors or lawyers or investors. The majority of blacks depend on simple jobs with a minority rising to the top in complex jobs. Without these simple jobs, the majority of blacks risk slipping into underclass suffering in a white majority country. This is simply how things work and how blacks must operate to succeed. Cacs too once depended wholly on blue collar jobs until white collar jobs became plentiful. If blacks have high unemployment, they will never progress.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Racism isn't an opinion, it's a system of oppression. Racism is white supremacy.

The only racists on this planet are white, because they're the only group in position to be, other groups can be bigots or prejudice but not racist.

Yeah, that's a cool line and I agree with the sentiment.

In the context of the post I was quoting; the poster was using the word racism as interchangeable withprejudice which is how a lot of people use the word.