How can you claim to be against white supremacy, but still perpetuate its legacy?

[African Peasant]

Yeah.

Most black people speaking against Hip-Hop are doing that because they care about their people.

Never said they did. I said some of the specific narratives i posted in the OP stem directly from white supremacy and/or perpetuate it.

Never said anyone was told anything. Its the institution of white supremacy that leads to the ideas.

And I repeat OP wrote : "rap music has bad influence". Don't change his words.

I am the OP I'm not changing my words. "Rap music is a bad influence" refers to the talking point blaming black music for the ails of black people.

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You keep changing your words. You clearly said ; "what white supremacy told people to think".

Nobody's blaming black music. Stop changing your words. We're talking about hip-hop. Nobody is saying that gospel or Soul is the cause of black people's problem.

People are pointing out the negative influence of hip-hop in our community, since it's the most influential aspect of black culture in America.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You keep changing your words. You clearly said ; "what white supremacy told people to think".

White supremacy as in The American Social structure. Not as in a specific person.

Nobody's blaming black music. Stop changing your words. We're talking about hip-hop. Nobody is saying that gospel or Soul is the cause of black people's problem.

People are pointing out the negative influence of hip-hop in our community, since it's the most influential aspect of black culture in America.

And this is what I'm talking about.

Its white supremacy that makes you think this about black people. Since the beginning of time images of sex, violence, drugs have been prevalent in popular culture. There are literally cave drawings of sex, rape, violence, ect. But only when we get to American black people do we blame those images for the ails of society.

Its a tactic white supremacy uses to paint black people as different. Somehow our music is uniquely damaging, in the face of thousands of years of human society.

 

[African Peasant]

White supremacy as in The American Social structure. Not as in a specific person.


And this is what I'm talking about.

Its white supremacy that makes you think this about black people. Since the beginning of time images of sex, violence, drugs have been prevalent in popular culture. There are literally cave drawings of sex, rape, violence, ect. But only when we get to American black people do we blame those images for the ails of society.

Give me the name of those other popular black art form glorifying the murder of your own people, demonizing black women, glamorizing an hoodlum lifestyle prior to Hip-Hop.

 

[African Peasant]

Its white supremacy that makes you think this about black people. Since the beginning of time images of sex, violence, drugs have been prevalent in popular culture. There are literally cave drawings of sex, rape, violence, ect. But only when we get to American black people do we blame those images for the ails of society.

Its a tactic white supremacy uses to paint black people as different. Somehow our music is uniquely damaging, in the face of thousands of years of human society.

History is also full of wars and genocide, so we should let hIP-hop contribute to the destruction of our community because the white man did the same during history ?

Are we obliged to follow the white man or do we have our autonomy ?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Give me the name of those other popular black art form glorifying the murder of your own people, demonizing black women, glamorizing an hoodlum lifestyle prior to Hip-Hop.

You serious?

Real gangsters were celebrated before rap music ever existed.

Gangsters were like celebrities.

The fukking bible demonizes women

And murder is a staple of the human race.

Rap music didnt create these ideas.


But again somehow in America its alway black people's fault

 

[PhonZhi]

Argue with a 32 y/o truck driver who hasn't proven he's black yet brehs.

you dont even live in amerikkka

 

[MeachTheMonster]

History is also full of wars and genocide, so we should let hIP-hop contribute to the destruction of our community because the white man did the same during history ?

Are we obliged to follow the white man or do we have our autonomy ?

Who said anything about following the white man.

 

[African Peasant]

You serious?

Real gangsters were celebrated before rap music ever existed.

Gangsters were like celebrities.

The fukking bible demonizes women

And murder is a staple of the human race.

Rap music didnt create these ideas.

You didn't answer my question. We're talking about black people.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You didn't answer my question. We're talking about black people.

I'm talking about black people.

 

[African Peasant]

Who said anything about following the white man.

You.

Your argument is basically; "the white man (or the other) did it, so why are we getting blamed for doing the same?"

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You.

Your argument is basically; "the white man (or the other) did it, so why are we getting blamed for doing the same?"

No, I said nothing about the other.

Do you not think black people are a part of history?

 

[African Peasant]

I'm talking about black people.

So, Give the name of the black art form who did the thing I've listed.

Is the bible a black art form demonizing black women ?

 

[African Peasant]

No, I said nothing about the other.

Do you not think black people are a part of history?

This is your sentence : "But only when we get to American black people do we blame those images for the ails of society."

Your argument is based on a comparison between African American and others.

 

[Faneto]

Black on Black crime
Single mothers
Rap music bad influence
Anti-educational culture
Black women want thugs
Crabs in a barrel
The gay agenda
Immigrants coming to take black jobs
Integration was/is a bad thing
Social welfare was/is a bad thing
Who's black enough or not

- black on black crime is an issue. That's a fact and many black people end up abandoning black neighborhoods because they're not safe

- single parents is an issue

- agree on rap and BW wanting thugs

- immigrants are harmful to blacks, this is a fact. These people enforce white supremacy more than whites themselves

- integration was a terrible thing for. Blacks


What an awful thread. You're pretty much advocating for things that are harmful to us because of what white people think

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So, Give the name of the black art form who did the thing I've listed.

Is the bible a black art form demonizing black women ?

The bible is the original "art form" demonizing black women.

But what do you want? Movies? There's plenty of them demonizing black women.

Music? There's plenty of soul/funk/blues songs disparaging women.

You really think this started with rap music?

This is your sentence : "But only when we get to American black people do we blame those images for the ails of society."

Your argument is based on a comparison between African American and others.

I'm comparing them to human society in general, which includes black people.

White supremacy inspires you to search for some type of differnce between people with different skin colors.