How Can Something Go Against Nature If Nature, Itself, Has No Actual Purpose?

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We, as human beings, have social/political/religious purposes, but all of those are subjective purposes created by humans. You couldn't say that there is an actual purpose of creating life, or to life itself. So how does one go against something, like nature, that has no actual purpose? What would it even mean to go against nature?
The purpose of nature is to reproduce that's why men and women have different types of reproductive organs that allows birth and the cycle of life to continue.
 

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The purpose of nature is to reproduce that's why men and women have different types of reproductive organs that allows birth and the cycle of life to continue.
We have the ability to reproduce. That reproduction has no actual purpose outside of the ones that we attach to it.
 

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I've seen, multiple times on here, posters commenting that homosexuality, "goes against nature." The example is usually that two men/women can't produce a child. That is true, but to say that homosexuality goes against nature implies that nature (evolution/biology) has an ACTUAL purpose outside of the ones we, as human beings, have attached to it. Of course there is the natural drive to reproduce, and we see these patterns all throughout the animal kingdom, but there is no ACTUAL purpose of life. There is no ACTUAL purpose of human life. It just is. So how can something go against nature if nature, itself, has no actual purpose?

Natures only purpose is to persist.

Homosexuality goes against that.

So in a way, it's the only thing that can be considered "against nature"
 

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Natures only purpose is to persist.

Homosexuality goes against that.

So in a way, it's the only thing that can be considered "against nature"

That is the purpose human beings have assigned to nature. You've selected an element of life [procreation], and declared it to be the purpose of it all. Humans have the ability to create life. Humans have the ability to end life. I wouldn't say that the purpose of life is death simply because I have the ability to kill. I would recognize this as an ability that I have, and leave it at that. You don't know what the actual purpose of life is, in the same way that you don't know what happens after life, but people have issues with ambiguity. You don't desire to procreate out of some cosmic sense of responsibility. You just have that ability. I feel that your true desire is to rationalize your own existence, and declaring procreation to be natures only purpose satisfies that desire.
 

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That is the purpose human beings have assigned to nature. You've selected an element of life [procreation], and declared it to be the purpose of it all. Humans have the ability to create life. Humans have the ability to end life. I wouldn't say that the purpose of life is death simply because I have the ability to kill. I would recognize this as an ability that I have, and leave it at that. You don't know what the actual purpose of life is, in the same way that you don't know what happens after life, but people have issues with ambiguity. You don't desire to procreate out of some cosmic sense of responsibility. You just have that ability. I feel that your true desire is to rationalize your own existence, and declaring procreation to be natures only purpose satisfies that desire.
No.

Everything nature does results in new life.

From forest fires, fruit growing on trees, to earthquakes, to Dolphins having homosexual contact, the result is more life.

If nature stopped creating life, life would cease to exist
 
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