How can OKC get better?

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I’d start by trading Steven Adams and Roberson

Nerlens could start and give you defense and rim running

What if OKC had Milwaukee type spacing around Westbrook and George? Then you’re talking about a much better team
 
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I think Russ is done if this shooting slump isn't because of his injuries pre-season. Like if this is just him having a bad stroke, on top of his already horrible shot selection, it's done. He doesnt even trust his middy anymore, and he doesnt drive to finish nearly enough. I dont think hes as good a drive and kick PG as he should be for how often he attempts them, although that might partly be because there's no catch and shooters aside from Paul.

Although he's still a good defender when engaged, Lillard has simply been cooking him. Even if you are good, if the matchup is putting buckets on your head...
 

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I’d start by trading Steven Adams and Roberson

Nerlens could start and give you defense and rim running

What if OKC had Milwaukee type spacing around Westbrook and George?
This series has really plummeted Steven's value. Kanter has been good enough against him to stay on the floor, and their other bigs are good enough rebounding wise to replace his value there.
 

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I’d start by trading Steven Adams and Roberson

Nerlens could start and give you defense and rim running

What if OKC had Milwaukee type spacing around Westbrook and George? Then you’re talking about a much better team

That would require stretch big men. Nerlens nor Adams have that ability.
 

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He is too small at SG. It's the same issue you run into with Rose. At this stage, he is a 6th man but paid like he is a HOF which is correct in terms of his accomplishments but not his actual impact

HES NOT TOO SMALL AT SG IN 2DAYS NBA.

ALSO TEAMS RARELY HAVE DYNAMIC SG/SF COMBOS
SO IF HE DOES RUN UP AGAINST A BEASTLY SG
YOU HIDE HIM ON THE CATCH AND SHOOT SF WHILE PG CHECKS THE SG.
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HES NOT TOO SMALL AT SG IN 2DAYS NBA.

ALSO TEAMS RARELY HAVE DYNAMIC SG/SF COMBOS
SO IF HE DOES RUN UP AGAINST A BEASTLY SG
YOU HIDE HIM ON THE CATCH AND SHOOT SF WHILE PG CHECKS THE SG.
:devil:
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They hide him a lot these days in the regular season. How is this using him any different than now?
 

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HES NOT TOO SMALL AT SG IN 2DAYS NBA.

ALSO TEAMS RARELY HAVE DYNAMIC SG/SF COMBOS
SO IF HE DOES RUN UP AGAINST A BEASTLY SG
YOU HIDE HIM ON THE CATCH AND SHOOT SF WHILE PG CHECKS THE SG.
:devil:
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I agree. this league doesnt require a tall SG.
 

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It’s time to blow it up. Westbrook a stat padding, stubborn declining superstar, PG is okay at best, Overpaid Adams, Billy Donovan is NOT the answer......just blow it up


You cant blow it up tho.. lol

nobody cant take Russ contract unless its somebody in the same boat with their current player


"ironically" the Wizards.
 

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For now they’ve hit their ceiling, but improvement from the young players can help them out. I think Russ gotta take a real look in the mirror and admit the flaws he’s been so reluctant to work on. Jason Kidd left the league having become a shooter, Kawhi had no J to speak of starting out and now is a great scorer.

If he actually worked with a real shooting coach and improved at that he’d prolong his own individual run and would really help his team out. He has no excuses. Either survive and strive or die out on the court. :yeshrug:
 

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The elephant in the room

the elephant .... Nov 19, 2017
I think with Russ, he may be declining athletically due to his knees.
His shot and layups all seem short.
He is not getting the assistance from his legs, like he used to.

Dec 13,2018

Let’s address the elephant in the room ….. Russ has struggled mightily.
He has been defensively poor in pnr coverage and screening, electing to stay in no mans land which is putting the backside rotations into chaos.
He is trailing his player and forcing a lazy switch without picking up the switched Big.
If Russ’s player is pushed back to him ,he waits for him, giving the big an open lane to the rim.
He was the cause of many defensive breakdowns and pts in the paint because he wouldn’t pick up a player .
While I can understand, that health may be a factor for Russ, this problem is only going to get worse as teams will actively target Russ and put him in pnr situations, just like the Pels did.
OKC cannot keep covering for him.

Offensively, Russ is not attacking the rm , making ft’s and he is turning the ball over and his shot is off.
It’s been at least 10 games since Russ’s return and imo, it is more than a lack of fitness or confidence.
Russ is starting the games looking tired and flat .
It would be diff if he started of energetic, at least on the defensive side but he hasn’t.
He seems to be saving himself for the 4th Q.
For nationally televised games , Russ goes all out but he was very quiet and I wouldn’t say it was him being controlled because he was clearly frustrated.
He has been frustrated for a while.

Imo, I think his legs might be done.
He is lacking explosiveness and lift.
If this is the case, then OKC will have to look at monitoring Russ’s mins, which games he should play and if necessary, look at giving him rest to see if his knees improve.
Playoffs is a long way off and in the meantime ,OKCneed to look at a management plan for Russ.


Jan 3, 2019
Okc is ranked 20th in off rtg even tho they lead in stls,deflections and off rebs.
It’s also painfully obvious that opposing teams r dropping off Russ and encouraging him to shoot.
Without his speed and athleticism, Russ’s offensive impact and okc’s offense is severely limited .

Jan 8,2019

Context …. This season, Russ is 7th in usg% among starters and 245/301 for efg%.
His efg% and ts% has dropped.

efg%/ts%
2015/16 48.9% / 55.4%
2016/17 47.6% / 55.4%
2017/18 47.7% / 52.4 %
2018/19 44.6% / 47.5%
Last 4 games 41% / 46.1%

OKC’s problem is that they need Russ to be almost MVP-like to contend but he can’t.
He is not a shooter and his game relies on his athleticism.
Russ is declining and he has been since his MVPyear..
Schroder is definitely a problem but :youngsabo: is OKC’s biggest problem.
 

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What's funny is that CJ McCollum is like 6'2" and is cooking the Thunder, but you got people saying Russ is too small when they're basically the same size
They don't play anywhere near the same style of ball. It's like thecoli likes not thinking and shyt. Come on son, think!
 

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I've defended him for almost a decade, but I cant anymore. His lack of bball IQ in high pressure situations and his terrible shooting and ability to shoot his team out of games is becoming indefensible. He is looking more and more like a regular season stat stuffer who cant get it done in the playoffs.

He is about to exit the first round for the third straight year. KD is still a bytch for going to the warriors but I dont blame him got leaving the Thunder.

nikka needs to come with some legendary performances and win the next 3 games if he doesnt want his name and legacy to be mud.
 
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