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you know anything about that AME church on Louisiana, Downtown. I work right across from it, and always imagined they had history behind it and it’s location?

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Anybody ever watch this series? Is is any good or authentic?






All I know is it's named after Emmanuel Hemmitt one of the people responsible for first organizing AME congregations throughout the state.
 
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Seems like there's a small indie black film scene popping up in the city since the 5th ward film festival started in the old DeLuxe Theater, which just got a huge million dollar renovation a few year ago.

A New Film Festival Premieres In Houston’s Historic Fifth Ward | Houston Public Media

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I keep telling people- If you young, successful, and aados 5th ward, 3rd ward, 4th ward, Studewood, Acres Homes etc is where it's at right now. These places are booming with new investments. We need to get in on that. Don't get pimped by gentrification. The burbs are a bad investment, unless it's one of the few that aspire to be their own planned lil micro city like the Woodlands(and they don't want your ass either). The rest are dead as donkey shyt.

Frenchtown 5th ward is getting a whole new Market Square slated to open in 2022.
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Not to mention the new Liberty Square residence in the nickel.

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It really is a waste of money, resources, and a whole lot of cultural intangibles moving out to the burbs.
 
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Seems like there's a small indie black film scene popping up in the city since the 5th ward film festival started in the old DeLuxe Theater, which just got a huge million dollar renovation a few year ago.

A New Film Festival Premieres In Houston’s Historic Fifth Ward | Houston Public Media

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I keep telling people- If you young, successful, and aados 5th ward, 3rd ward, 4th ward, Studewood, Acres Homes etc is where it's at right now. These places are being booming with new investments. We need to get in on that. Don't get pimped by gentrification. The burbs are a bad investment, unless it's one of the few that aspire to be their own planned lil micro city like the Woodlands(and they don't want your ass either). The rest are dead as donkey shyt.

Frenchtown 5th ward is getting a whole new Market Square slated to open in 2022.
french-church-development-1-300x175.jpg

VISIT

Not to mention the new Liberty Square residence in the nickel.

70803852_141527423872793_2965455457160064689_n.jpg



It really is a waste of money, resources, and a whole lot of cultural intangibles moving out to the burbs.

Dopeness. Never knew about Frenchtown, but Im assuming lot of Louisiana transplants came there back in the day. You right....I wish young black professionals saw the hood like so many are looking at Africa...a place to rebuild our own stuff.
 
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Dopeness. Never knew about Frenchtown, but Im assuming lot of Louisiana transplant cane there back in the day.

Yeah Frenchtown was established by Lou Creole people after the great mississippi flood in the 20s(Edit: It was actually established a few years before, but the GMF is what made it grow significantly and spurred the creation of most of it's institutions). It's the place were my maternal grandparents first came to the H after they moved from St. Laundry Parish Louisiana and the birthplace of Zydeco music(regardless of how much Louisiana likes to claim it). There's even a street named "Opelousas"(seat of St Laundry Parish) that runs through there.

But Frenchtown certainly wasn't the only place lou creole ppl migrated to when they came here. They settled all over SETX really. 3rd ward was a popular destination because it has the oldest black catholic church. So, was 4th ward, because it was just the most popular black neighborhood in the city at one time. Barrett Station TX in East Harris county was founded, built, and settled by black Louisianians before Frenchtown, and was popular destination for them after the great MS flood. The baytown area was another popular destination. Lotta the ones from Frenchtown ended up moving to Kashmere & Trinity Garden, as well as the Homestead area like my grandparents. A bunch of the ones from Frenchtown also moved east to Clinton Park and Pleasantville too. But they can be found all over the city really. Look at Beyonce's folk from way out in Alief.

H-town black culture is a mix of East TX and Southern Lou in a big city urban environment.

You right....I wish young black professionals saw the hood like so many are looking at Africa...a place to rebuild our own stuff.

Pure escapism. Investing time, money, and resources in Africa even from a practical point of view could only stand to benefit the individual at best, not our entire community. Not to mention that our AADOS heritage is here not there. My culture, history, and heritage is houstonian-aados(TX/LA), not yoruba, igbo, hausa, akan, fon etc etc. Why would I invest in and uplift their ethnic homelands & communties over my own, especially when none of them would even think of doing so for us? It doesn't make any sense.
 
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No one outside of the AA community in Houston has ever really contributed to cultural identity of the city.

Think about it:

First music scene- Blues

Oldest park- Emancipation Park(oldest in TX as well)

Most popular music scene- Hip Hop

Signature music style
- Chopped and Screwed

Signature car culture- Slabs

Signature college sporting event- Labour Day Classic

Signature narcotic- Drank

Signature BBQ style- (South)East TX, which is firmly rooted in AA traditions

At least 3 of the 10 most popular nicknames, including the #1 most popular nickname for the city(H town) were coined by the urban AA community.
https://www.houstonpress.com/arts/be...ouston-7372584

We even got McDonalds using the word "trill" on their billboards in the city.

Two of the most successful record labels to ever come out of the city Peacock-Duke and Rap-a-lot were both born out of the AA community.

Sam Lightnin Hopkins Is the only musician to have a dedicated TX heritage site.

Juneteenth was born here.

Culturally H-town is Detroit.

And we can add the biggest music fest in the city(Astroworld) comes from us as well.

The Ensemble Theatre is the largest black theater in the country.

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Yeah Frenchtown was established by Lou Creole people after the great mississippi flood in the 20s. It's the place were my maternal grandparents first came to the H after they moved from St. Laundry Parish Louisiana and the birthplace of Zydeco music(regardless of how much Louisiana likes to claim it). There's even a street named "Opelousas"(seat of St Laundry Parish) that runs through there.

But Frenchtown certainly wasn't the only place lou creole ppl migrated to when they came here. They settled all over SETX really. 3rd ward was a popular destination because it has the oldest black catholic church. So, was 4th ward, because it was just the most popular black neighborhood in the city at one time. Barrett Station TX in East Harris county was founded, built, and settled by black Louisianians before Frenchtown, and was popular destination for them after the great MS flood. The baytown area was another popular destination. Lotta the ones from Frenchtown ended up moving to Kashmere & Trinity Garden, as well as the Homestead area like my grandparents. A bunch of the ones from Frenchtown also moved east to Clinton Park and Pleasantville too. But they can be found all over the city really. Look at Beyonce's folk from way out in Alief.

H-town black culture is a mix of East TX and Southern Lou in a big city urban environment.



Pure escapism. Investing time, money, and resources in Africa even from a practical point of view could only stand to benefit the individual at best, not our entire community. Not to mention that our AADOS heritage is here not there. My culture, history, and heritage is "houstonian aados"(TX/LA), not yoruba, igbo, hausa, akan, fon etc etc. Why would I invest in and uplift their ethnic homelands & communties over my own, especially when none of them would even think of doing so for us? It doesn't make any sense.

My thing is.....why not both :krs:.
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My thing is.....why not both :krs:.
Cake and eat it too.

The question of why we should go out of our way to invest resources into foreign people and lands still stands. Are we obligated because of skin color? Is there some mutual benefit we'll get from it?
 

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Christmas/New Years Gloves Up Guns Down communnity event going down in 3rd ward on Dec. 28.

 

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The question of why we should go out of our way to invest resources into foreign people and lands still stands. Are we obligated because of skin color? Is there some mutual benefit we'll get from it?

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Without derailing this thread, cause its about Houston....

but the African population is one of the largest outside of the continent.

This is demographics and culture.

True. All skin folk are not kin folk. Always gone be friction, but I would be damned if I let some ADOS/FBA vs African/Caribbean almost comical, but actually significant discussion stop the opportunity to build up AA community by simultaneously building up Africa. Houston's historical black community is rich as you have indicated, but we in a new era.
  • The current population of Africa is 1,316,252,534 as of Wednesday, October 2, 2019, based on the latest United Nations estimates. Africa population is equivalent to 16.72% of the total world population. Africa ranks number 2 among regions of the world (roughly equivalent to "continents"), ordered bypopulation.
  • More than 40 million blacks live in the United States, making up around 13% of the nation'spopulation, according to 2016 Census Bureau estimates. Here are five facts about the U.S. black population today, drawn from Pew Research Center studies in the past year.Feb 22, 2018
32x the African American population is on the continent. We as FBAA need to be tapping into that.......hell African and Caribbean immigrants and 1st generation kids/adults are already tapping into FBAA society....they are doctors, lawyers, engineers, Ph.Ds, business owners, etc. It's trillions of dollars of opportunity if done smartly and sustainably and with some equity in mind. I understand your sense of keeping the local black donestic culture unique....I totally get it...and that can still happen even in these neighborhoods....like the Frenchtown revival, which should definitely be promoted

I want to see 5th and 3rd Ward rise up and be Inner Loop Wakandas as much as I want to see African countries to be Wakandas. This is just the opinion of a transplant to Houston. :yeshrug: :manny:
 
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Without derailing this thread, cause its about Houston....

but the African population is one of the largest outside of the continent.

This is demographics and culture.

True. All skin folk are not kin folk. Always gone be friction, but I would be damned if I let some ADOS/FBA vs African/Caribbean almost comical, but actually significant discussion stop the opportunity to build up AA community by simultaneously building up Africa. Houston's historical black community is rich as you have indicated, but we in a new era.
  • The current population of Africa is 1,316,252,534 as of Wednesday, October 2, 2019, based on the latest United Nations estimates. Africa population is equivalent to 16.72% of the total world population. Africa ranks number 2 among regions of the world (roughly equivalent to "continents"), ordered bypopulation.
  • More than 40 million blacks live in the United States, making up around 13% of the nation'spopulation, according to 2016 Census Bureau estimates. Here are five facts about the U.S. black population today, drawn from Pew Research Center studies in the past year.Feb 22, 2018
32x the African American population is on the continent. We as FBAA need to be tapping into that.......hell African and Caribbean immigrants and 1st generation kids/adults are already tapping into FBAA society....they are doctors, lawyers, engineers, Ph.Ds, business owners, etc. It's trillions of dollars of opportunity if done smartly and sustainably and with some equity in mind. I understand your sense of keeping the local black donestic culture unique....I totally get it...and that can still happen even in these neighborhoods....like the Frenchtown revival, which should definitely be promoted

I want to see 5th and 3rd Ward rise up and be Inner Loop Wakandas as much as I want to see African countries to be Wakandas. This is just the opinion of a transplant to Houston. :yeshrug: :manny:

TBH what I got from this in summary was they(africans and caribbeans) are large in population and have successful diasporas. Let me know if there's something pertinent I'm missing, because I'm not seeing in that where it's necessary for us to specifically build with them. AADOS at 40 mill is more than sufficiently large to be economically self sufficient as a people. Jews do it at 14.6 mill. I not against having business relationships with non-AAs, I just don't believe it's a necessity or should be a priority, as we should put our own ethnic group first in all aspects. What I don't understand is why you feel it's so important to establish connections with Africans and West Indians specially rather than lets say Mexicans, Chinese, Indians, East Europeans or even White Americans(much larger and wealthier groups). They're all non-AAs. What makes Africans and West Indians so special to us that they deserve our special attention? Have they offered us anything special or are we back to flattened skin color identity reduction? Because that's a folly that AAs seem to naively keep falling for and continuously getting burnt by.

Also, it's a lil disingenuous to say the "ados" movement is the reason for the tensions between AAs and non-AA blacks. Caribbeans in the US have had a campaign to distinguish themselves from AA for decades, and the the fact that AA and Afro-Caribbeans even exist as ethnic groups is because continental Africans sold our ancestors into the transatlantic slavery. They know this too hence why they call us akata. But, hey if you can forgive African and West Indian anti-AA bigotry then you should have no problem looking past Mexican anti-black racism when they call us "mayate" or Asian anti-blackness, and celebrate them tapping into our society just if we do it with Africans and West Indians. Me personally I'm not looking past ANY anti-black or anti-AA bigotry. I deal with ALL of them from a distance and always go to bat for my people. I don't care how rich and successful they are. I'm not compromising the dignity of my people.

But even if those tensions didn't exist and everything was all good in the hood. The fact would STILL remain that AADOS is it's own distinct ethnic group with it's own ethnic boundaries that need to be respected. No amount of money in the world is worth compromising the integrity of our people. Houston is a city built off the very back of our enslaved ancestors. *ALL* non-AAs enjoy prosperity in our city because of our hard work(not being bias for or against black non-AAs or non-black ones). historical AA neighborhoods in the city can't just be give up to the alter of flattened blackness, because ethnic AAs are the ones who built them from the ground up and established our culture there(which the city as a whole has adopted as it's own). African and West Indian people and cultures are foreign to that just like Mexican, Chinese, and White Americans.

*NOTE: I'm aware AAs and West Indians do share some ethnic origins due to being decedents of the transatlantic slave trade. But, we're still wildly different from them. AAs are a group totally unlike any other and that should be respected.

I want to see 5th and 3rd Ward rise up and be Inner Loop Wakandas as much as I want to see African countries to be Wakandas. This is just the opinion of a transplant to Houston.

AADOS transplants in Houston are welcome here as family in our community. Our local communities and culture will embrace you. Non-AADOS, black or not, are outsiders and will not be offered free reign on our history, heritage, and culture. 3rd & 5th ward belong to the AADOS people who built them from the ground up. Not the Mexican, not the West Indian, not the African. FYI AAs in Houston and TX as a whole have a MUCH longer history with Mexicans than with West Indians and Africans(the first peoples to legally integrate in Houston were AA and Mexicans). Still doesn't change the facts that we're two seperate people who's ethnic boundaries need to be respected or erase Mexican anti-blackness. Africans and West Indians themselves have a lot more in common with Mexicans than they do AAs, seeing as they relate with them being of immigrant background.

AA neighborhoods in Houston don't need to and wont become "wakandas". They need to become thriving centers of AA-Houstonian business, education, culture, and heritage.
 
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