Holy Cannoli! We’re On The Strive For Five! The Dynasty Rolls On! Golden State Warriors 2022-23 Season Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.

Don Homer

Molto Bene
Supporter
Joined
Aug 25, 2013
Messages
31,148
Reputation
5,472
Daps
105,426
With the cap restrictions, it’s not happening regardless
im saying any 2 of poole, klay, and kuminga can be traded. But bob habitually sits on his on his ass. Clearly trading poole and kuminga and pbj/rollins could net us a rotation player.

Lakers literally got Hachimura by getting rid of Nunn, who was hasnt been good since he left miami 2 years ago. Myers has to actually do the GM work, which isnt just making sure draymond doesnt get too mad (which he also sucks at because draymond punched poole, stomped on Sabonis's chest and got suspended for a playoff game, and got suspended from racking up too many technical fouls)
 

King Eros

Gold Blooded 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Joined
Dec 13, 2016
Messages
2,474
Reputation
799
Daps
8,297
I like maxey tho. And herro is a good rebounder

I know Klay stunk up the place after Game 2, but I came in here to ask...

Would the Dubs still be playing if Poole was injured like Herro?

:patrice:
 

Don Homer

Molto Bene
Supporter
Joined
Aug 25, 2013
Messages
31,148
Reputation
5,472
Daps
105,426
I know Klay stunk up the place after Game 2, but I came in here to ask...

Would the Dubs still be playing if Poole was injured like Herro?

:patrice:
prolly not. The Heat have a ton of guys that play hard as hell. The undrafted guys are undrafted, but these dudes are in their late 20s

Duncan - 29
Strus - 27
Gabe Vincent - 26
NC State's very own Caleb Martin - 27

Bam adebayo is their youngest rotation player since Herro is out. BAM ADEBAYO. Think about that.

Everyone makes a big deal about them being undrafted, but they in their mid to late 20s. The warriors had divincenzo and GP2. Outside of their starting lineup, it was pretty much teenagers. Moody, Kuminga, PBJ, Rollins. Lamb is 25, but it's anthony fukking lamb smh. None of those guys are dawgs. Duncan, Strus, Gabe and Martin all have that experience and they play hard. That's why they are on the Heat. Pat Riley finds players that have decent talent, and are a good fit for the team

We have a bunch of whiny ass players with wads of shyt between their ears.

Everyone is ignoring that players need to FIT on their respective team. Poole seemed like a good fit because he averaged 17ppg on 50/39/90 splits in the playoffs. That shyt is not sustainable, so if he's not putting up numbers on unsustainable efficiency, he's gonna look terrible. Kuminga is a disappointment. He doesnt play hard, he's a small forward with absolutely no wing skills, so he has to play the PF spot. But he can't rebound to save his life, so it's a bad fit. not to mention he has a wad of shyt between his ears and very little feel for the game. He is also a extremely useless in the half court, which is how most playoff games are played, and has a 1.9:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. And of course, his attitude and mentality sucks. Kerr was right to bench him. He wasn't gonna win us any games

Now compare that to a guy like Duncan Robinson. Dude was out the rotation for the entire season basically. He comes in, and plays hard and he's been great in the playoffs. He didnt sulk and complain. No stories came out that he was mad about his role/minutes on the team. He understood that he needed to stay ready, and when his time came, he made the most of it.

Kuminga and Poole played like ass. If you look at the 2021 lottery picks (picks 1-14), the only guys that Kuminga is clearly better than are Josh Primo, Ziaire Williams, and James Bouknight. He aint fukking with Franz, Cade, Mobley, Giddey, Davion (who got rotation minutes in the playoffs while kuminga was benched immediately), Barnes, or Jalen Green.
 

King Eros

Gold Blooded 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Joined
Dec 13, 2016
Messages
2,474
Reputation
799
Daps
8,297
prolly not. The Heat have a ton of guys that play hard as hell. The undrafted guys are undrafted, but these dudes are in their late 20s

Duncan - 29
Strus - 27
Gabe Vincent - 26
NC State's very own Caleb Martin - 27

Bam adebayo is their youngest rotation player since Herro is out. BAM ADEBAYO. Think about that.

Everyone makes a big deal about them being undrafted, but they in their mid to late 20s. The warriors had divincenzo and GP2. Outside of their starting lineup, it was pretty much teenagers. Moody, Kuminga, PBJ, Rollins. Lamb is 25, but it's anthony fukking lamb smh. None of those guys are dawgs. Duncan, Strus, Gabe and Martin all have that experience and they play hard. That's why they are on the Heat. Pat Riley finds players that have decent talent, and are a good fit for the team

We have a bunch of whiny ass players with wads of shyt between their ears.

Everyone is ignoring that players need to FIT on their respective team. Poole seemed like a good fit because he averaged 17ppg on 50/39/90 splits in the playoffs. That shyt is not sustainable, so if he's not putting up numbers on unsustainable efficiency, he's gonna look terrible. Kuminga is a disappointment. He doesnt play hard, he's a small forward with absolutely no wing skills, so he has to play the PF spot. But he can't rebound to save his life, so it's a bad fit. not to mention he has a wad of shyt between his ears and very little feel for the game. He is also a extremely useless in the half court, which is how most playoff games are played, and has a 1.9:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. And of course, his attitude and mentality sucks. Kerr was right to bench him. He wasn't gonna win us any games

Now compare that to a guy like Duncan Robinson. Dude was out the rotation for the entire season basically. He comes in, and plays hard and he's been great in the playoffs. He didnt sulk and complain. No stories came out that he was mad about his role/minutes on the team. He understood that he needed to stay ready, and when his time came, he made the most of it.

Kuminga and Poole played like ass. If you look at the 2021 lottery picks (picks 1-14), the only guys that Kuminga is clearly better than are Josh Primo, Ziaire Williams, and James Bouknight. He aint fukking with Franz, Cade, Mobley, Giddey, Davion (who got rotation minutes in the playoffs while kuminga was benched immediately), Barnes, or Jalen Green.
So basically

Pat Riley >>> Bob Myers

What moves do you THINK the Dubs will make this offseason?
 

Waterproof

Warrior Lifestyle
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
12,684
Reputation
2,381
Daps
35,485
The Lakers series proved how much Mike Brown was important to The Warriors and The Championship teams, he's a Defensive Mastermind! And Mike Brown deserve as much as credit as Kerr for them titles. If Mike Brown was still here we would of beared the Lakers
 

threattonature

Veteran
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
23,651
Reputation
3,739
Daps
75,460
So basically

Pat Riley >>> Bob Myers

What moves do you THINK the Dubs will make this offseason?
Or it could be that Spo is a better coach than Kerr and knows how to change up offense based on the roster he is given compared to fitting square pegs into round holes when the players don’t fit the desired offense.
 

rbksNgirbauds

Even on the court we stay flyy, Jada & A.I.
Joined
Nov 18, 2016
Messages
9,026
Reputation
1,086
Daps
42,357
The Lakers series proved how much Mike Brown was important to The Warriors and The Championship teams, he's a Defensive Mastermind! And Mike Brown deserve as much as credit as Kerr for them titles. If Mike Brown was still here we would of beared the Lakers
Good point. Kings defense in that series was definitely a notch above what I expected and it was sorely missed by the Dubs for large portions of the season, yet lone the Lakers series ....but Coach Brown been doing that for a while on the low. People forget that the '07 Cavs were a top 5 defense that year.
 

BlueHeffner

Veteran
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
25,002
Reputation
6,451
Daps
103,112
The Lakers series proved how much Mike Brown was important to The Warriors and The Championship teams, he's a Defensive Mastermind! And Mike Brown deserve as much as credit as Kerr for them titles. If Mike Brown was still here we would of beared the Lakers
Mike Brown was the difference btwn Klay remembering how to shoot and not go full westbrook in game 4? :dwillhuh:
 

Volt

All Star
Joined
May 24, 2022
Messages
1,375
Reputation
385
Daps
3,984
Reppin
Rio
What moves do you THINK the Dubs will make this offseason?
None that will actually help. So basically, we're screwed.

Considering that the locker room is thoroughly cooked and a lot of the players we got just aren't that good, there are tough decisions to be made.

Tough decisions can't be made when you're trying to give one of the most inept GMs in the league the biggest GM bag.

So realistically, this offseason will have this emotional ass organization trying to deal with the GM situation, then Klay and Dray wanting max contracts in this eternal cap hell, trying to figure out the locker room issues, wtf to do with the busts and the short contract rotation players, and then trying to get everyone in sync for another playoff push again because we've been having almost an entire cast of new role players every season.

It's just not that sustainable to try and get the ball rolling with all this uncertainty. Last year's chip was a result of everyone being 100% locked in, some chasing a ring and bag for the first time.

Steph making a speech before game 7 on the road in the conditions the team has been in throughout the entire year having no results on the supporting cast says a LOT.

Honestly, I'd rather have them blow it all up. Maximize Steph's window, fukk them kids, fukk them vets, Klay and Dray will have their jerseys retired already, it's all good. Ship em off if they must. New CBA is out there like the reaper, they gotta fix this mess asap.
 

Don Homer

Molto Bene
Supporter
Joined
Aug 25, 2013
Messages
31,148
Reputation
5,472
Daps
105,426
So basically

Pat Riley >>> Bob Myers

What moves do you THINK the Dubs will make this offseason?
Pat Riley is much better than Bob. The worst thing Pat did was pay Hassan Whiteside, and he managed to get off that contract and still compete. At least hassan made an all-defensive team. Poole is a bench player. He's being compared to JR fukking Smith, who also flourished as a 6th man. You NEVER pay JR Smith that much money.

I'm not sure which direction they go, but i would LIKE the FO to actually do their jobs. That means getting off Poole and Kuminga because they don't fit at all. Find pieces that work. I have no issue with them using their draft picks, but the picks have to fukking fit what they're trying to do. Stop drafting a bunch of "project players", especially when you've shown no ability to develop at all. Like i said in the previous thread, Jimmy's backup guys are undrafted but they're in their mid to late 20s. Steph will be retired by the time Kuminga, Moody, PBJ, Rollins are in their mid to late 20s. Steph will be 39 by the time Poole is 27. He helped us get that title last season and we thank him, but him being a Warriors has run its course. Like, if the Warriors used their 19th pick to draft Kris Murray and moved their leftover 2nd round picks to get Jaime Jacquez, 2 4-year guys (already older than Kuminga, Poole, Moody, PBJ and Rollins) with good BBIQ who fit what the warriors wanna do, i'd have no issue.

I can't name you names specifically, but the Warriors gotta move poole, who is set to make over 30 million dollars on average over the next 4 years. You just don't pay that much money to a 6th man. I get that the Warriors would like to play him as a starter when Steph is out, but what about when steph ISN'T out? His defense is never gonna be good enough to justify that contract. You see what the Heat are doing w/o Herro? You see how teams that had Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford never won shyt? Inefficient bench scoring doesn't matter. If you were to replace Poole with Alex Caruso, or a 31 year old Andre Iguodala, or Josh Hart, your chances of winning would increase greatly. What they don't give you in PPG, they give in rebounds, playmaking, wing defense, etc. Poole's PPG is not worth it. As i said earlier, Kuminga is not a good fit for this team. Even taking away all the "attitude" talk, as a player he's a bad fit. He can't rebound, shoot, dribble, or pass. He was only drafted high because he can jump high. But you look at the other wings in that draft, like Franz, Trey Murphy, Giddey, Keegan Murray, etc. They aren't super athletic, but they have good feel and IQ and are way more helpful to their teams than kuminga. Keegan was a rookie starter on a playoff team. Even when wiggins was out, and we didnt have GP2 healthy, Kerr never even thought to start Kuminga at the 3 or 4. Why? because he has none of the foundational skills needed for a wing, and if you play him at the PF spot, he's a woefully bad rebounder. There are too many issues with his game, and he's not gonna fix then overnight. If he ever fixes it, Steph will be 40+ years old by then. So we will waste the remaining years Steph has for a guy that would have us in the lottery regardless.

That's what people gotta understand. As soon as steph retires, we are gonna be a top 5 lottery pick team, reliably. So we might as well give Steph the best chances at competing because it's all downhill from here regardless
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
85,021
Reputation
9,353
Daps
229,895
I don’t why nxggas are talking about Mr. Potato Head when Kerr’s adjustments basically took him out of that 1st round series. The Warriors defense phased Sabonis’ bum ass out of the picture and Brown had no reply. He was a non-factor for the majority of that series; his biggest impact was getting Dray suspended. Even Dray with his limited offensive game proved to be a far more impactful player on that end. Brown had all the insider knowledge of the players and yet still he couldn’t capitalize on it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top