Hollywood gives up: Anti-woke white men will determine shows and movies in the future

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If Aliens came out today, they would say it was woke.

This was cool in 1987:
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It's pandering and woke casting in 2024.

The 80's were no less racist than the present but with the internet a vocal minority can make enough waves to have everyone think they're the majority. These nerds aren't deciding the fate of these shows the quality does. You make a trash show with a diverse cast than everyone says it's because no one wanted to see diversity. Now that they have a few buzzwords to rally around they can use them for any situation.

Yes, there's a point when these shows and movies try to fit in so many agendas they're devoid of subtlety and it has a negative impact on storytelling but if you're black you need to strongly consider the problems that arise when your position aligns with a bunch of racists whites. You see it everyday on here when people post tweets from right wing sources.
 

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Even if yall don't like gay people... it's crazy not to see the bigger picture of this

I'm all for more black owned and created productions, because it's not as if Hollywood was doing a great job at depicting black folks.

But to support the outright rollback of everything woke just because you don't like gay people? Idk



What are your top 5 movies breh :patrice:
 

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This was cool in 1987:
YL3GPOiDcNraIJOVDCZsoOBoDy.jpg


It's pandering and woke casting in 2024.

The 80's were no less racist than the present but with the internet a vocal minority can make enough waves to have everyone think they're the majority. These nerds aren't deciding the fate of these shows the quality does. You make a trash show with a diverse cast than everyone says it's because no one wanted to see diversity. Now that they have a few buzzwords to rally around they can use them for any situation.

Yes, there's a point when these shows and movies try to fit in so many agendas they're devoid of subtlety and it has a negative impact on storytelling but if you're black you need to strongly consider the problems that arise when your position aligns with a bunch of racists whites. You see it everyday on here when people post tweets from right wing sources.
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People really falling for dumb shyt and not thinking for themselves 1 level deeper.

I actually like the fact that more minorities the last few years made it to the end and don't look "incapable" like they used to.
 

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Historically, Hollywood made a point to have white America's european phenotype at the fore front of all forms of fiction to the point where it appears "natural" for them to be Jedi, Kryptonians, wizards, demigods, Disney princesses and all sorts of sci-fi and fantasy characters.

...while limiting black America's west african phenotype to just the American experience (i.e. hood movies, slave/civil rights movies, and however you categorize those Waiting to Exhale / Tyler Perry joints.) to the point where seeing a "black" person outside of those parameters seems "unnatural", "forced", and "woke".

Producing/Controlling your own media is important (for those fortunate enough to be able to) but so is leveraging your voice and buying power as consumers. In your YT comments, rotten tomato reviews, social media, etc., be very specific with what you want and that you're only going to pay for that.
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Even if yall don't like gay people... it's crazy not to see the bigger picture of this

I'm all for more black owned and created productions, because it's not as if Hollywood was doing a great job at depicting black folks.

But to support the outright rollback of everything woke just because you don't like gay people? Idk


The guy with the stars in his name is white.
 

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The problem isn't allegedly woke content, it's bad writers and bad writing that is constantly elevated by studios. Even if studios stop making "woke" content (and I don't believe they'll stop, at all) we would still be left with bad stories, bad characters, and bad sequels/prequels. It's ironic that Variety is running that story alongside this one at the same time:


Art has always been influenced by politics and contemporary events. In the 1970s that meant Vietnam, disillusionment with the American dream, the crumbling of public trust in institutions (government, church, etc). I watched Rolling Thunder a few months ago and was thinking man, how many 1970 movies are there with a veteran returning from Vietnam only to find no place in society while being antagonized or ignored. In the 1980s, how many films were about capitalism success or women entering the corporate work force, or cynical suburban families. Nobody ever thought it was weird that most of the big 1980s comedies of the time featured white people living in big ass houses, in quaint suburban neighborhoods where everything seems perfect except for the people? Lynch addressed it head on by throwing it in your face: a return of 1950s suburbia but somewhere hidden behind the facade of normalcy there is danger, and underneath it all is something dark and ugly.


In terms of adaptions (books, comics, remakes, etc) it's hard to have good writing when "writers" who have never read/seen the original are constantly being hired. I have no issue with feminist or LGBTQ approaches to anything, but when that is the only lens someone can view a story from there's a problem. The funny thing is that all these people tell you exactly who they are. They brag about knowing nothing about the adapted work. They brag about not reading classic English literature or watching classic American (or European) film because "it's all about white people and patriarchy." You want better things? Hire better writers. You want more slop designed to target specific demographics? Keep hiring the same writers being hired today. The reason I don't think anything changes is because the studios/corporations don't give a shyt about quality: they want to target demographics like fast food. You know how you hear the "urban/black/Hispanic" McDonalds ad when you're driving in a black city, and then you hear the "regular"/white McDonalds ad when you're driving in a whiter area? That's all it is. Black LOTR. Gay Star Wars. It's about marketing slop to as many people as possible, and hiring wack people to create it on the cheap.

Take a show like Reacher. What should be a cookie cutter action tv show. The acting was b-movie bad with cringe dialogue. I couldn’t finish 2 episodes :dead: shyt is just so bad all around now
 

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I don't understand this assumption that the superfan panels will consist of all white guys as if black people aren't superfans too ?

The new wave of diversity in Hollywood realy just meant more white women. If anything, we've seen less black men as a result. Getting rid of T'Challa for example. Blade scripts that made some white woman the central character in his movie is another example. Blade and War Machine both stuck in development hell with award winning actors in the role while Agatha gets fast tracked, lol

Karim please explain how I'm a c00n for wanting more actual black characters to make it into live action?
You dumb as hell if you think they're gonna include Black ppl

When they talk about pandering, they're talking about Black ppl too
 
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That's the exact issue: poor writing.
I wonder if the popularity of the MCU contributed to it because the worked on a simple formula and were making billions and receiving high praise

Honestly I think the MCU's success in many areas had a terrible impact on filmmaking in general. They're out here using green screen for basic office interior shots. The cost cutting and general dismissal/disdain for art and artists is on display in everything they do. So it makes sense that their scripts and writers are so bad too. A lot of producer tampering and shyt as well.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Russo Bros are hyping the use of AI in filmmaking and seem dedicated to the most soul-less slop imaginable. Did you guys peep the pics that just came out for their next film, an adaption of The Electric State? They adapted a novel with a very interesting, stark artistic style and turned it into the most general Netflix/Amazon/etc streamer slop looking shyt imaginable. So it's not just writers doing this. It's nearly everything that the major studios are doing.
 

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Nothing wrong with non white characters but in certain instances where your core audience is white then it could be off putting to the white male demographic.
 
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