Hitmaka debates with B-Dot that the Nas/Hit-Boy albums have no impact

[spliz]

Why wouldn’t he sell out MSG? He has a large fanbase through generations and was once a highly commercially successful artist with music that resonated.

What Hit Maka is saying isn’t incorrect these albums have no influence or impact past Nas core fanbase. There’s nothing wrong with that at this point of his career but it’s the reality.

I don’t even get all the Jim Jones hate in this he was never a high seller but has had a respectable and long career in his own right.

nikka shut up. Lol. U turned into a straight up hater. Before the Garden u nikkas was actin like he couldn't do it. Now that he did it its "of course". nikka please. It was a KINGS DISEASE show. Based off his last 3 albums. Cut the bullshyt. Hitmaka just literally did an album with Jim Jones that did absolutely nothing. Every KD album debuted top 10 on the charts with only 1 outside the top 5 on an indepent label. Bottom line is Hitmaka has ZERO room to talk. He hasn't produced bigger hits than HitBoy. He's not a better producer and not a better rapper either. nikka literally has zero leg to stand on. HitBoy just dropped a Grammy winning and Grammy nominated album with a nikka thats 30 years into his rap career.

 

[Mr swag]

Dude about to get smacked again LOL

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Dude about to get smacked again LOL

by who jungle

 

[Mr swag]

by who jungle

chained snatched and taken on a greasy neck hood to hood tour part 2.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

chained snatched and taken on a greasy neck hood to hood tour part 2.

you didn’t answer my question lol

 

[tuckgod]

As someone who says Nas is the GOAT, there is an argument to be made on Berg's side of the table. The "play this with a girl", at least as an absolute, is not it.

I would never take a woman seriously that didn’t like Nas

 

[Mank1nd]

All this talk, where's the music?

"I just seen Yung Berg spoke on the wave
I should do him like Trick Trick and snatch Hit out his name" - Hitboy

 

[Ziggiy]

I don't even think it's wrong to say the KD albums have largely just been consumed by some of Nas' hardcore fans. My issue is why the fukk is he making that argument while promoting an album that's about to bomb? I'm not hating on Jim, I'm asking why is it cool for them to drop projects for their fans with no expectations of selling but it's cool to shyt on Nas for it?

I mean Jim Jones and Camron had been doing that for years. Publicly proclaiming that Nas was irrelevant while Nas was outselling both of them COMBINED. Then years later both of them want to apologize and admit they was just hurt that Nas dissed them and never acknowledged their little movement.

Yung Berg is just doing the same thing. We all know he’d give his kidney to produce a full album with Nas. We all know the Jim Jones album won’t outsell any of the Kings Disease albums. We all know Hit Boy is more successful and more respected than Berg ever has or ever WILL be. But sometimes rap is the WWE. Whoever talks the loudest and the longest must be the most successful.

Nas just sold out Madison Square Garden. And he did it with the KINGS DISEASE trilogy. Not Illmatic. Not It Was Written. Not I Am. Not Stillmatic.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Duh

them shyts don’t have no impact or numbers

these are facts

Dumb nikkas dapped this

 

[Cuban Pete]

Is this a slight at Nas? Wonder if he will even say anything cause of this. This is what happens when people worship sales over a lasting legacy without numbers.

Thank 50 for that, overproduced and hyperinflated mid level weedplates with 30 features and hella sales >>>> actual culture shifting, innovative and thought provoking critically acclaimed pieces that do under 200k

Hip Hop (and music in general) needs an Academy Awards type show that slants towards the artsy shyt cause the Grammys aint doing it (unless its for CACS)

 

[mobbinfms]

Hitmaka is a Terrible producer

But he’s right

The Nas albums impacted Nas fans..that’s it. Didn’t really do much for the culture as a whole

This isn’t true. KD1 debuted at #5. KD2 at #3 and KD3 at #10.
These numbers mean that the albums impacted beyond Nas’ fan base. We know this because the numbers dropped precipitously in the following weeks, when the general hip hop audience who tuned in on week one stopped listening and we were left with just Nas’ fan base.

If what you were saying was true, and only Nas fans were impacted by the albums, the sales would have been consistent for months and the albums wouldn’t have charted.

 

[mobbinfms]

Why wouldn’t he sell out MSG? He has a large fanbase through generations and was once a highly commercially successful artist with music that resonated.

What Hit Maka is saying isn’t incorrect these albums have no influence or impact past Nas core fanbase. There’s nothing wrong with that at this point of his career but it’s the reality.

I don’t even get all the Jim Jones hate in this he was never a high seller but has had a respectable and long career in his own right.

How can an album debut at #3, #5 or #10 and have no impact?

 

[mobbinfms]

I don't even think it's wrong to say the KD albums have largely just been consumed by some of Nas' hardcore fans. My issue is why the fukk is he making that argument while promoting an album that's about to bomb? I'm not hating on Jim, I'm asking why is it cool for them to drop projects for their fans with no expectations of selling but it's cool to shyt on Nas for it?

Jim’s album came out last week and didn’t chart in the top 50 this week. It had no impact.

 

[Redwing80]

Nas is tied as the rapper with the most top 10 chart placements alongside Jay-Z

For real

 

[OfTheCross]

Hit Maka is right