Agreed with the red and I don't care if people call me a c00n. What I find ironic is that black people of the new world(mainly AA's) whose ancestors came from West Africa or shall we say the Western Sudanic had close contact with Arabs and Egyptians. And Arabs never enslaved their ancestors but instead really tried to mirror. Yet we have black people in the diaspora ignorantly saying Arabs enslaved their ancestors. No they only bought East Africans(who they dont descend from) from other Muslim East Africans themselves. Meanwhile the Trans Sahara trade had little to do with slavery and Arabs and other foreigners were UNDER THE THUMB of West African emperors. Not only that but were said to be inferior compared to the people of Western Sudan too.
"The scholars of Timbuctoo yielded in nothing, to the saints in the sojourns in the foreign universities of Fez, Tunis, and Cairo. They astounded the most learned men of Islam by their erudition. That these Negroes were on a level with the Arabian savants is proved by the fact that they were installed as professors in Morocco and Egypt. In contrast to this, we find that Arabs were not always equal to the requirements of Sankore." 2 As a center of intellectual achievement, Timbuktu earned a place next to Cairo and other leading North African cities.
-Dubois, Felix. Timbuctoo the Mysterious
Again I find it ironic.
[QUOTE="Blackking, post: 8284972, member: 3451"
though there is much historical and anthropological evidence for the first Arabs being black for damn near all of history---
The easiest and simplest way to figure the shyt out is to read what they wrote of themselves... if all the kings, poets, song writers, oral traditions, etc all say they were black then we can assume they were right.
7th cen AD.... miskeen wrote... "I am Miskeen, for those who know me. My color is dark, the color of the Arabs."
Muhammad's great uncle... "I am the black-skinned one (green). I am well-known. My complexion is black (green). I am from the noble house of the Arabs. Whoever crosses swords with me will cross swords with one who is noble and strong.
Ibn Berry, the well-known Arab grammarian of the
12th century AD, explains Al Fadl ibn Al Abbas's words by saying, "...He means by this that his genealogy is pure and that he is a pure Arab because
the Arabs describe their color as black and they describe the color of the non-Arab Persians as red"
Ibn Mandour further describes the pure Arabs by saying, "Lank hair is the kind of hair that most non-Arab Persians and Romans have while
kinky hair is the kind of hair that most Arabs have".
With Islam being adopted by persians and all these other groups........ over time some Arab groups have went from black to Asian or white in the mind of "Islamic scholars" who were basically racist arabs and persians - and then co-signed by white historians in the 18th 19th century.
Even in Muhammad's time where there were mixed people - A pure Blood Arab was the dark Arab with african features like kinky hair.[/QUOTE]