Hip Hop was the 1st time in America where stereotypes of Blackfolks were self inflicted

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....Social Media is fast becoming the second but Hip Hop is the first..

...and it all started when Gangster rap invaded the mainstream in 1993.

When Jazz was the "in" thing...Blackmen wore suits, hell you couldnt even get in a Jazz club without a suit. All the way up to 70's R&B we sang about love and Blackmen dressed like grown men, they even had a term for it, "Dressing /looking sharp." When Superfly (which was directed by a Black man) came out it was countered by a soundtrack denouning drug dealing and drug using. Minstrel shows where out of our control...The way the news and Hollywood portrayed us was out of our control.

But Hip Hop was in our control and look at where we took in since the emergence of gangster/drug dealer rap in the early 90's.

- Black men bragging about killing other Blackmen
- Black Men bragging about selling drugs in their community
- Black men refering to Blackwomen as bytches and hoes
- Blackwomen accepting being called a bytch and a ho(Prior to Hip Hop the only time a woman accepted this on an open level was if she was in the nightlife of the underworld)
- Blackmen bragging about sleeping with other Blackmens wives
- Blackmen making light of hurting/killing children
- Blackmen boasting of their financial status to an audience of people who aren't rich as if to shove it in their faces like snobs.
Blackmen condoning illegal activity and boasting after the illegal activity is complete
- Grown Blackmen dressing like teens and acting like teens
- Blackmen proudly speaking ignorant.



All of the above was self inflicted....No one outside of our race created these images...we(Hip Hop) did...Notice how I dont exclude myself because I cant. I am a contributing factor to all of this as well because I supported it for years, as with so many others. In the late 80's the music of NWA and 2 Live Crew were distributed independently...they weren't pushed by a "machine" so all that conspiracy theory nonsense goes right out the window. No one forces rappers to flash guns or speak on camera about beef with other Blackmen.(I remember Kid Capri saying he refused to ever talk about anyone he ever had beef with openly...Different times different era I guess)


My thing is this....Now that we are here and we are in so deep....what do we do to counter it all?? This self inflicted image has been in effect for around 23 years....Thats 23 years of damage that needs to be reversed and replaced with an alternative...But how the hell is that going to happen? In all of Americas history we never experienced this type of self inflicted damage.
 

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The conditions werent self inflicted,your upset the report OBVIOUSLY exagerated some details:jbhmm:...You can slander it if you want to,but hiphop has been one of the most powerful and last line of defense against white supremacy since the civil rights movement went to shambles:mjcry:
 

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The conditions werent self inflicted,your upset the report OBVIOUSLY exagerated some details:jbhmm:...You can slander it if you want to,but hiphop has been one of the most powerful and last line of defense against white supremacy since the civil rights movement went to shambles:mjcry:

Where is the slander? What are the details that I exaggerated??

I stated facts. You didnt.

You just said that Hip Hop is the most powerful last line defense against white supremacy...This isn't 1991.....This is 2016.

How is Hip Hop a defense against white supremacy when Mainstream Hip Hop for the past 23 years doenst even speak on race like that anymore?? This isn't 1988 - 1993 when race was an issue.....Hell, Dead Prez was the last real thing we saw concerning race issues and even they were concluded to be a marketing gimmick.
 

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This is the reason the Older Generation was against Hip Hop

Calvin Butts used to make some great points he just went about it wrong in certain cases. He did what Oprah does.....he put all the weight on the rappers (who for the most part are lying on the mic for a check) and not on the distributers which is where the energy should've been aimed at, like how Dan Quale did it.
 

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Hip Hop is a huge umbrella. You have so many different types of artists that you CANNOT attack it as a culture claiming it to be all negative and justify that thought but...

The 4 major labels that run things for the mainstream/masses don't care about the black condition as long as it's producing dollars. There is a lot of dysfunction in our community that they capitalize on.
 

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Good post but I don't see things changing anytime soon

The conditions that create this self destructive mentality aren't going to change so the mentality isn't going to change


:mjcry:


Thats the conclusion that I came to....Things aint gonna change anytime soon and on top of that the self infliction will continue. Kinda gives an impression of hopeless hope.





the people that stereotype others will always find a reason

rap music has nothing to do with it, those that refuse to judge as a man as an individual, but on his race, can't helped.


This statement didnt really make any sense. I'm not speaking on how people stereotype others...I'm speaking on self inflicted Stereotypes.

2 different things
 

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the people that stereotype others will always find a reason

rap music has nothing to do with it, those that refuse to judge as a man as an individual, but on his race, can't helped.

Hiphop culture is the BIGGEST reason all black people are stereotyped:what:. Its the biggest reason blacks are judged as a group instead of individually, like every other race.
 

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Where is the slander? What are the details that I exaggerated??

I stated facts. You didnt.

You just said that Hip Hop is the most powerful last line defense against white supremacy...This isn't 1991.....This is 2016.

How is Hip Hop a defense against white supremacy when Mainstream Hip Hop for the past 23 years doenst even speak on race like that anymore?? This isn't 1988 - 1993 when race was an issue.....Hell, Dead Prez was the last real thing we saw concerning race issues and even they were concluded to be a marketing gimmick.

Not you,hiphop....The subject matter in hiphop was a reality that was not self inflicted,hiphop just exagerted the details of that reality in many ways.

It doesnt need to be about rac3 to be powerful,just the facthiphop is anti assimilation is powerful in itself,so even hiphop in its what some would call "ignorant" form, hiphop can be a weapon.

if you know your history you know white supremacy hasnt always been about destroying us,but often times trying to remake us over to fit they "white is right" standards of speech,dress,lifestyle,hobbys,mentality etc:pachaha:

Hiphop being so proudly anti white allowing blacks to proudly maintain our own and completely different cultural identity is powerful to me,despite the drawbacks....because those drawbacks would be there without hiphop...now in 2016 as hiphop and black folks nationwide abandon hiphop as if they are too good for it,and have become whitewashed,yes hiphop has lost its power.
 
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