Hip Hop Really Deserves to Die At This Point

[maxamusa]

Being a gangsta aint a requirement on being a Top 10 MC.

Never said it was.


You're the 1 twisting your warped morality to who is dope and who isn't.

Respectfully, your moral compass has nothing to do with who does n doesn't make good music.

The sources you cited already contradict the BS you putting down.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

The Fck we supposed to listen to without hip-hop? What's moving the culture?




Other Genres are cool and all...but is there something NEW out there I don't know about?

 

[Wild self]

Yup.

Funny thing is, the Stan's don’t even be actual fans or real Hip Hop heads. You got dudes on here talking about they didn't even like Nas until "Ether". Now they're his "biggest" fans. No kinda knowledge about what dude was doing before that. People are just looking for sh*t to latch onto and claim so they can have an identity through the music.

So now you see a lot of the original heads giving up and saying they're done with Hip Hop. That's wild. That's how bad sh*t is, that people are really thinking about not f*cking with a culture that was built by us, for us. The masterplan of those other people worked. They came in and eventually undermined our whole sh*t.

Yep
@General Mills @NYC Rebel

 

[Nostalgic]

Funny how you say that, cause only attention starved people conform to lower standards for acceptance from superficial people.

False.

 

[Love Sosa]

some of y’all act like scorned bytches when it comes to Drake Hip hop sucks because everyone copies everyone and only make 2 minute songs with the same flow. Without drake y’all would have nothing to talk about. Ghostwriters or not drake is the least of problems in hip hop.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

p*ssy nikka hiding

 

[Mac Ten]

some of y’all act like scorned bytches when it comes to Drake Hip hop sucks because everyone copies everyone and only make 2 minute songs with the same flow. Without drake y’all would have nothing to talk about. Ghostwriters or not drake is the least of problems in hip hop.

Drake a hoe azz nikka…

He’s the male Beyoncé.


It’s surprising that no rap nikkaz slapped him up yet. Diddy smacked him like a pimp

 

[Thanos]

Giving on black art form, very shameful behavior.

 

[Mac Ten]

Being a gangsta aint a requirement on being a Top 10 MC.

I have to disagree. You can’t be spitting those thugged out bars and not have anyone check you.

Even Rakim knew not to spit those bars and make things hot. At least back then, the gangsters hid behind the scenes. Nowadays, those same cats wanna rap and still be thuggeed out

 

[kwazzy100]

He's a pop act not some serious MC. That's fine, that's who should be making the records everyone knows and girls like to dance to. Anyone who treats him as a serious MC is a casual Hip Hop fan.

The problem is that he's still held regard as a serious Emcee!
This issue shouldn't just be given the "Well, it's just their opinion" take because this narrative has been live and well throughout the decade. His lane was a Pop rapper, cool, but now he's a gangster rapper and Hardcore Emcee? This shouldn't be controversial to any casual hip-hop fan, but it is.

 

[kwazzy100]

Lost where? This shyt ain't over

Plus Even if K.dot used AI it would have been seen just as corny. It's these stan wars, podcast hot takes and cornballs with voices( Akademiks, Kai Cenent, Adam 22, Wack100, Vlad) that's polluted the game terribly

These Drake stans have a brain as the size of a grape. All these podcasts dudes will never have authenticity to public when discussing Hip-Hop. They allow corny, over saturated music to be held as good just because they're bought off. I'm not saying Drake don't make good music. If he puts the effort in, he actually can, but that's the not the real point. When an artist like Drake put out bad music, why keep praising it as good? Why are outside attributes such as albums sales in for consideration a huge factor when it comes to a good album or a few catchy singles?
Why is it when a rap album is trying to mature and be more introspective but doesn't have catchy singles like their last album, they're quick to call it "mid"?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Yeah, getting shot 9 times was a gimmick in itself, especially when that same rapper was nowhere near DMX quality musically or lyrically. It was white America's fascination with black gangsters as zoo animals.

Very true.

Dre said there were a lot of white kids in the 'burbs who came to the tour because they thought 50 getting shot mad times was "the coolest thing" ever. He said their parents were the same ones who believed NWA was doing all that wild sh*t they spoke about on records. That's how White America wants to see their rappers. CB4'd up and ignorant.

They don’t want to see X-Clan, Lakim Shabazz, Poor Righteous Teachers or Brand Nubian. That was scary to them. They were into PE until they started highlighting slavery and the issues with racism and voting rights. That's when Lyor told Chuck D "nobody wanted to hear that sh*t". Def Jam didn't renew their contract three years later. And then overnight, labels stopped signing those kinds of acts.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Autotune is an extension of the talk box. IYKYK.

Autotune is NOTHING like the talk box, fam.

Teddy Riley made sure to point this out mad times. Auto-tune is for people who can't sing. They're using it to pitch correct in hopes of making themselves sound decent and more melodic in delivery, vocally.

The talk-box works by actually PLAYING an instrument at the SAME TIME and turning what you're playing, whether it's melodies or chords, into words that you're trying to say. It's basically using your instrument as a voice. You can't do that, if you don’t know how to PLAY an instrument. You need to know how to have both vocal skills AND the ability to play an actual instrument in sync.

They are not the same, or extensions of each other.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I have to disagree. You can’t be spitting those thugged out bars and not have anyone check you.

Even Rakim knew not to spit those bars and make things hot. At least back then, the gangsters hid behind the scenes. Nowadays, those same cats wanna rap and still be thuggeed out

Rakim was official though.

He was very much exactly who he said he was in his raps. If you listen to the tour stories, Rakim was always wildin' and threatening other rappers in person. Not on records, but in person! He had issues with LL and when they toured together, L said some sh*t to him he didn't like, and Ra showed him that he had that thing on him and told LL he would murder him right then and there, lol.

Back in the day, the rappers weren't p*ssy like they are today. They did more wild sh*t off the records, than they did on them. But Eric B and Slick Rick were known to always get into shootouts on the road. Erick Sermon said Slick Rick would have a full arsenal on him.

 

[Wild self]

Very true.

Dre said there were a lot of white kids in the 'burbs who came to the tour because they thought 50 getting shot mad times was "the coolest thing" ever. He said their parents were the same ones who believed NWA was doing all that wild sh*t they spoke about on records. That's how White America wants to see their rappers. CB4'd up and ignorant.

They don’t want to see X-Clan, Lakim Shabazz, Poor Righteous Teachers or Brand Nubian. That was scary to them. They were into PE until they started highlighting slavery and the issues with racism and voting rights. That's when Lyor told Chuck D "nobody wanted to hear that sh*t". Def Jam didn't renew their contract three years later. And then overnight, labels stopped signing those kinds of acts.

Yep. People use gangsta shyt to mask their lack of lyrical prowess that their level headed counterparts had, outside of a few exceptions. By that logic, The Clipse and Jadakiss should have been ran out the rap game during the 'real' era of the late 90s/early 00s.