Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Bruh did you read that article and did you goto to the websites of those black interest orgs he donated to? We not talmbowt NAACP donations
Hillary to Black Lives Matter "Get an agenda"
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Bruh did you read that article and did you goto to the websites of those black interest orgs he donated to? We not talmbowt NAACP donations
WaveCapsByOscorp™
2021 Grammy Award Winner
when i say people i mean people, race plays no part
Not for rioting and protesting. Mannnn I don't know what the deal is with ol'boy but I rather have him give the money to the Democrats than the Republicans (
).
Meh, I'm sitting this election out. 
I refuse to vote for a supposedly smart, experienced, Ivy League educated presidential candidate who suddenly plays dumb when it comes to issues that affect the black community.
I refuse to vote for a supposedly smart, experienced, Ivy League educated presidential candidate who suddenly plays dumb when it comes to issues that affect the black community. 
Well I can't agree with you absolving whites based on ignorance. They know all about the prison industrial complex. They orchestrated it and they maintain it. You can't have a prison industrial complex unless you have all levels of the justice system working in concert. That means that politicians, judges, prosecutors, police, and the general white public that puts these people in positions of power are all complicit.when i say people i mean people, race plays no part
What was the question tho? Go back and listen to the overall question that dude asked. Dude basically asked "how do we force the country to have a moment of reflection on how we treat black people?" To me that's a nonsensical question and that's why she answered the way that she did. She gave them some good game.There is something very staged about this.
Ol'girl is a politician through and trough.She didn't answer their question and basically switched it back on them. Took up most of the time talking, so in the end they really couldn't say anything. The body language is she basically ordering them around. Also you could tell they were not really prepared.
The thing about Obama is he is very good at listening to people and formulating a response that shows he actually cares about the issue, even though he either can't do anything about it or he doesn't really care.
Meh, I'm sitting this election out.
cant make the same mistake 3 times in a row can we
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I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
The money may not have gotten to a black-owned business, but funding black interest groups is just as good. Especially if those groups are really about their agenda
I don't see anything wrong
If you don't see anything wrong with a white billionaire funding a "grass roots" movement then I don't know what to tell you.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
I understand the suspicions, but I also understand the need for funding, that does not come from the very community that the orgs are supposedly fighting for
If the article the breh posted is correct and the agenda that is quoted by the billionaire's foundation director is accurate and true("desire to hold people accountable for their actions"), then what is the problem?
BLM should not have checked Hillary, Bernie, or any other democratic candidates since being funded by Soros, but they did
A SHORT FOLLOW-UP TO THE PREVIOUS POST ON BLACK LIVES MATTER.
I wish that I could find the words to describe how I feel right now. Maybe I will figure them out by the time you finish reading the following passage from Stephen Crockett’s story at The Root describing the meeting between Hillary Clinton and Black Lives Matter activists from Boston:
“Things took a turn when Clinton asked the activists to explain policy changes they wanted to see enacted.
‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, “If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.”‘ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.’
‘Respectfully,’ Clinton answered, ‘if that is your position, then I will only talk to white people about how we are going to deal with these very real problems.’
‘That’s not what I mean,’ Jones said. He added, ‘But what you just said was a form of victim-blaming. You were saying what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts is to …’
Clinton told them that she isn’t interested in changing hearts, but rather policy.
‘You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through that you might change some hearts,’ she said.
‘But if that’s all that happens,’ she continued, ‘we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation because we will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.'”
I want you, the reader, to step back and think about the scenario that has unfolded in the preceding passage. These activists get a private hearing with a candidate who is, at the moment, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. Not only that, but this potential Democratic candidate leads polling aggregates against every potential Republican candidate for the general election as well, meaning that it is plausible that you are having a meeting with the next President of the United States. They get a very simple question, yet it is a question that most people working for social change would kill to get from such a high-profile political candidate:
“Well, the next question is, ‘So what do you want me to do about it?'”
The answer is so stupefying, yet so telling, that it bears repeating.
“‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, ‘If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.’ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.'”
The answer is impressive only in its ability to say absolutely nothing at all. No policy. Not even a nudge in a general direction towards something where a policy might be crafted.Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house faster than that statement could see any type of policy.
And not only that, but do you know what led into that garbled mess that you see above?
“THE PIECE THAT’S MOST IMPORTANT….”
….is, apparently, telling Hillary Clinton that there is nothing that they, Black Lives Matter, can do about any of this. No advocacy. No policy agenda. No concrete plan. Nothing. Asking them to have a plan or a policy agenda? That is….victim-blaming. I am not kidding; that is what happens on the video.
—
I have alternated this entire day between befuddlement, bewilderment, and other nouns used to describe an unyielding state of confusion.
Just off the top of my head, there are at least three things that they could have asked for: a guaranteed right to protest without fear of ending your demonstration with a criminal background, legislation that bars police officers from earning pay while an investigation into a police shooting is ongoing, and a national limit to the amount of money that cities can make off moving violations and parking violations. Would those be my top three issues for the Black working class were I to receive the same audience? Absolutely not. But my goodness, it would be something more concrete than a response full of Intro to Sociology-style ephemera.
And for a series of protests that handwaves about “accountability”, it would have been beneficial to make concrete demands with which you could actually hold this person, you know, accountable. But what they allowed Hillary Clinton to do was completely evade any discussion of things that might actually get done if she becomes president in favor of allowing her to school them about the most fundamental premise behind policymaking institutions, which is to make policy.
Because if policy change is not the goal of this group of activists, then I am honestly wondering what the hell we are all doing here.
A Short Follow-Up To The Previous Post on Black Lives Matter.
GODDAMN
I wish that I could find the words to describe how I feel right now. Maybe I will figure them out by the time you finish reading the following passage from Stephen Crockett’s story at The Root describing the meeting between Hillary Clinton and Black Lives Matter activists from Boston:
“Things took a turn when Clinton asked the activists to explain policy changes they wanted to see enacted.
‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, “If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.”‘ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.’
‘Respectfully,’ Clinton answered, ‘if that is your position, then I will only talk to white people about how we are going to deal with these very real problems.’
‘That’s not what I mean,’ Jones said. He added, ‘But what you just said was a form of victim-blaming. You were saying what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts is to …’
Clinton told them that she isn’t interested in changing hearts, but rather policy.
‘You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through that you might change some hearts,’ she said.
‘But if that’s all that happens,’ she continued, ‘we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation because we will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.'”
I want you, the reader, to step back and think about the scenario that has unfolded in the preceding passage. These activists get a private hearing with a candidate who is, at the moment, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. Not only that, but this potential Democratic candidate leads polling aggregates against every potential Republican candidate for the general election as well, meaning that it is plausible that you are having a meeting with the next President of the United States. They get a very simple question, yet it is a question that most people working for social change would kill to get from such a high-profile political candidate:
“Well, the next question is, ‘So what do you want me to do about it?'”
The answer is so stupefying, yet so telling, that it bears repeating.
“‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, ‘If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.’ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.'”
The answer is impressive only in its ability to say absolutely nothing at all. No policy. Not even a nudge in a general direction towards something where a policy might be crafted.Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house faster than that statement could see any type of policy.
And not only that, but do you know what led into that garbled mess that you see above?
“THE PIECE THAT’S MOST IMPORTANT….”
….is, apparently, telling Hillary Clinton that there is nothing that they, Black Lives Matter, can do about any of this. No advocacy. No policy agenda. No concrete plan. Nothing. Asking them to have a plan or a policy agenda? That is….victim-blaming. I am not kidding; that is what happens on the video.
—
I have alternated this entire day between befuddlement, bewilderment, and other nouns used to describe an unyielding state of confusion.
Just off the top of my head, there are at least three things that they could have asked for: a guaranteed right to protest without fear of ending your demonstration with a criminal background, legislation that bars police officers from earning pay while an investigation into a police shooting is ongoing, and a national limit to the amount of money that cities can make off moving violations and parking violations. Would those be my top three issues for the Black working class were I to receive the same audience? Absolutely not. But my goodness, it would be something more concrete than a response full of Intro to Sociology-style ephemera.
And for a series of protests that handwaves about “accountability”, it would have been beneficial to make concrete demands with which you could actually hold this person, you know, accountable. But what they allowed Hillary Clinton to do was completely evade any discussion of things that might actually get done if she becomes president in favor of allowing her to school them about the most fundamental premise behind policymaking institutions, which is to make policy.
Because if policy change is not the goal of this group of activists, then I am honestly wondering what the hell we are all doing here.
A Short Follow-Up To The Previous Post on Black Lives Matter.
GODDAMN
I get your point, but I'm speaking beyond this whole BLM thing. It's been pretty apparent the issues the black community face (which generally boils down to lack of economic power), now we have a major Democratic candidate playing dumb about these issues. Which begs the question, what have black people gotten from such blind loyalty to Democrats?
Why look for someone else to look at your issues and bring them to the table for you? You need to lay out your issues, put together some potential solutions, and then ram the shyt down the politicians throats. Them white folks didnt just complain about random shyt, they organized, took over some political districts, and then took their issues to the floor of congress. Why isnt BLM trying to put their own candidates in the seats of congress in black districts? Force congress to give us something or we will put a hault to everything just like them white folks did.
These people had a meeting with the potential president of the USA and they couldnt name one precise thing they wanted from their protests. Not one. Thats a porblem.
I don't speak for BLM, I personally don't even vote anymore or look to politicians for anything.
I'm just saying, what has black voting loyalty to Democrats for the past 50 years done for the black community since apparently to these same Democrats black people are just idiots who hoot and holler but never organize? 
I would have never thought in a million years that these guys did not have a plan.
I really did not think their brain storming sessions was seeing who could come up with the best rhetoric and counter points.
I don't knock them, maybe they should have came on thecoli
WaveCapsByOscorp™
2021 Grammy Award Winner
you can't agree with me but it's true what i said either way. you saying what you said doesn't absolve my point and i'd say, from your viewpoint, you make it seem as if all whites are "in" on the idea. the truth is they just all benefit from it, but they're not all apart of it in the sense of orchestration and maintenance. there are black DAs just as eager as whites to maintain the prison industrial complex, black judges, etc, that are convinced this system of government works. that's why i said race plays little part. it's a system based on race but anyone can perpetuate it...
So it's a system based on race, but race plays little part huh?
I never said all whites are "in" on it but enough are in on and all whites benefit from it which makes them complicit. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Of course there are blacks who work to perpetuate the system. That doesn't change the fact that whites control it and are responsible for it.