Gender arguments in black community are pretty pointless, outside of highlighting issues. You are essentially 2 prisoners fighting over who has it better. You are both in prison. there are prisoners who have slightly status and it ultimately means nothing. You still are captured, learned to work together and break free.
Have Straight Black Men become the new face of White Guilt?
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Grano-Grano
The Bando
Nope. AAs like ALL of the diaspora were taken to unknown lands and yet they still fought(and I mean literally) and survived.And not only that but became the most POPULAR group of blacks from AAs, Jamaicans, Afro-Cubans, Afro-Brazilians, etc.
Meanwhile you Rwandans got conquered in your OWN LANDS by not only the Belgians but migrating Cushytic people.Hell most of you Eastern Bantus never put up a fight. And to add insult to injury the Belgians placed the pseudo-Bantu Tutsi over the rest of yall.
At least Southern Bantus were more
Sad history indeed.
PS: Lets not act like a significant amount of you Eastern Bantus were taken into the Arab slave trade...
Hence the term adoon
im not the one who made any comment about BM privlege
but just thinking it over for myself
the things that i can think of is that
*** please note i believe these are male/female things and not bm/bw things
-men have strength/ physical privlege
men are not the "weaker" sex
-due to the advantage in physical stregnth men have an advantage in physical safety
-sexual privlege/safety , societal norms allow for men to be promiscuous
as well as live [ftmp] completely free of concern from sexual assault
-male work oldboy network type advantages, men are more likely to be hired
without regard to their physical attractiveness more so skill/ experience
for lack of better phrasing men are competitive in different ways with other men
than women are with other women [ie prevalence of cattiness ans jealousy amongst women]
now
please note that the stregnth/physical priv. can not only be a blessing for the BM
but also a curse because the physical/strength aspect works against BM in regards to the WM
and leads to police brutality and police murders of BM, the overall criminalization of the BM
in society
-advantage in physical safety? yes overall. men are men and will overall have an advantage over women
in physical safety
-sexual priv/safety - men being able to behave sexually in ways that women cant without fear of repurcussion
not a big deal to me but for some women it is, even if only for the opposition to the double standard
sexual safety? yes men can be raped and they are victims of sexual violence
however due to the strength/ physical advantage [that is very real] its not
a general fear/ concern of most men unlike with women its a near universal fear or concern.
*in the case of both BM and BW the oppressors have painted us in the very most hyper sexualized manner
[projecting their fears/ wishes upon us] so we are all less safe sexually [from abuse or arrest]
-work advantages- men are extremely less likely to be victims of sexual harrasment/ assault in the workplace
men are more likely to be in positions of power , men relate to one another differently than they relate to women
or than women to women. overall thats a male [not just BM] advantage
-male stereotypes of women - more emotional. not logical not strong in math etc.
-this is another area that can be both a blessing and a curse for BM since you can either be feared or respected for
perceived strength
now for me personally i believe these are some general MALE privileges and not BLACK MALE
privileges, and if anything BM dont get the benefit of male privilege in our society that other men do.
why a small sect of crazy BW buy into the notion that you do is likely the result of the abused seeking someone to
abuse as opposed to focusing that anger upon her abuser.
i do hope that as men you will take into account the very real fears and implications of lack of physical and sexual safety
its not a BM privilege but its definat a privilege of men overall
** nobody quote me with any crazy shyt either
just some thoughts that passed through my mind and i decided to respond/
especially dont quote me with any bullshyt about "but but women are free to, or women have this" type nonsense
Im not here for that.
:smartdumbbreh: These batshyt crazy social media feminists are on some other shyt.
Who hurt these women?
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
im not the one who made any comment about BM privlege
but just thinking it over for myself
the things that i can think of is that
*** please note i believe these are male/female things and not bm/bw things
-men have strength/ physical privlege
men are not the "weaker" sex
-due to the advantage in physical stregnth men have an advantage in physical safety
-sexual privlege/safety , societal norms allow for men to be promiscuous
as well as live [ftmp] completely free of concern from sexual assault
-male work oldboy network type advantages, men are more likely to be hired
without regard to their physical attractiveness more so skill/ experience
for lack of better phrasing men are competitive in different ways with other men
than women are with other women [ie prevalence of cattiness ans jealousy amongst women]
now
please note that the stregnth/physical priv. can not only be a blessing for the BM
but also a curse because the physical/strength aspect works against BM in regards to the WM
and leads to police brutality and police murders of BM, the overall criminalization of the BM
in society
-advantage in physical safety? yes overall. men are men and will overall have an advantage over women
in physical safety
-sexual priv/safety - men being able to behave sexually in ways that women cant without fear of repurcussion
not a big deal to me but for some women it is, even if only for the opposition to the double standard
sexual safety? yes men can be raped and they are victims of sexual violence
however due to the strength/ physical advantage [that is very real] its not
a general fear/ concern of most men unlike with women its a near universal fear or concern.
*in the case of both BM and BW the oppressors have painted us in the very most hyper sexualized manner
[projecting their fears/ wishes upon us] so we are all less safe sexually [from abuse or arrest]
-work advantages- men are extremely less likely to be victims of sexual harrasment/ assault in the workplace
men are more likely to be in positions of power , men relate to one another differently than they relate to women
or than women to women. overall thats a male [not just BM] advantage
-male stereotypes of women - more emotional. not logical not strong in math etc.
-this is another area that can be both a blessing and a curse for BM since you can either be feared or respected for
perceived strength
now for me personally i believe these are some general MALE privileges and not BLACK MALE
privileges, and if anything BM dont get the benefit of male privilege in our society that other men do.
why a small sect of crazy BW buy into the notion that you do is likely the result of the abused seeking someone to
abuse as opposed to focusing that anger upon her abuser.
i do hope that as men you will take into account the very real fears and implications of lack of physical and sexual safety
its not a BM privilege but its definat a privilege of men overall
** nobody quote me with any crazy shyt either
just some thoughts that passed through my mind and i decided to respond/
especially dont quote me with any bullshyt about "but but women are free to, or women have this" type nonsense
Im not here for that.
So, because men are naturally physically stronger than women...then:
- this is a "privilege"?
- we are physically and sexually "safer" than women??
have an outstanding coli day brother.
Kenny West
Veteran
dont bother lol...shyt is so illogical she didnt either
Its not about amounts its about the ubiquity of certain levels of oppression. Black men are hella oppressed because of the racist regime of western society. Women (who are traditionally held black in most developed nations as a whole) have certain forms of oppression. Black women have to deal with not only racial oppression but also gender oppression...
How is that hard for you to understand?
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
It's not hard to understand it just doesn't make sense. What's "gender oppression" in a society where race trump's gender? Who's been more oppressed, white women or black men?Its not about amounts its about the ubiquity of certain levels of oppression. Black men are hella oppressed because of the racist regime of western society. Women (who are traditionally held black in most developed nations as a whole) have certain forms of oppression. Black women have to deal with not only racial oppression but also gender oppression...
How is that hard for you to understand?
thankyou.
i agree with you on that. thats a bw blessing and a curse just like the bm strength.
it was early in the morning and i was quite rambly but was hoping that i conveyed at least my general idea.
@taddow and @Kenny West
im not sure why my post upset either one of you unless you just want to be upset for the sake of being so
nothing i said was anti man and definately not anti Black man.
i never make anti-bm posts or speak in anti bm language
i consistently call out/ neg/ report those who do
if you are insistent upon seeing me as an enemy, go right ahead
thats part of the problem we have in our community now, that we just dont want to listen to the other side.
ftr privilege in this instance means advantage
substitute the word and see if it reads better
im happy to agree to disagree.
im not sure why my post upset either one of you unless you just want to be upset for the sake of being so
nothing i said was anti man and definately not anti Black man.
i never make anti-bm posts or speak in anti bm language
i consistently call out/ neg/ report those who do
if you are insistent upon seeing me as an enemy, go right ahead
thats part of the problem we have in our community now, that we just dont want to listen to the other side.
ftr privilege in this instance means advantage
substitute the word and see if it reads better
im happy to agree to disagree.