Has anyone noticed different races prefer different traits in their fictional heroes?

[datnigDASTARDLY]

Intresting thought that has no validity...but intresting nonetheless

Practically everything you said was way off base tho.

Huey lost just about every fight he was depicted in and he's a brooding cynic who cant relate to 99% of the ppl he interacts with, far from the ideal you're describing. nikkas like Riley way more

Vegeta is way more popular than goku with black folks by both irl observation and online. Thematically his character resonates more too.

Black folks in general aren't familair with tchalla and the movie will be their introduction to his character for most folks myself included.

Agreed, I think what the OP was trying to say by "powerful" but missing, is the reason behind that power?

Black folk aren't attracted to reckless power, there needs to be some conviction behind it. A righteous drive to use that power is way more interesting than just black and white use of power.

That's why Vegeta and Piccolo (he gets a nerd pass cuz he sound black and the color rule) are cooler than Goku.

Its also why Black Panther and Doom resonate way more than bytch ass Superman...etc..

Of course we all generalising...but theres gotta be something else in these characters to strike a chord and I think minorities identify with that part and not the whole.

If that makes any sense

 

[Neuromancer]

I learned that as a writer very few people regardless of race like flawed characters.

 

[Vandelay]

So everybody black in this site...

 

[Vandelay]

I tend to like flawed characters and I am Black. It's just that they usually aren't done well, or are not as flawed as the director/writer wants them to be. I've always hated characters that weren't flawed and were perfect. That doesn't represent humanity. All people are flawed in more ways than one, so depicting them as these super-humans with virtually no flaw is boring to watch because I am unable to connect with them or draw some form of meaningfulness from 'said' character.

This.

I generally have hated your Superman's, Fantastic Four, your Captain America's...in fact I can't stand most of DC outside of Batman because it all seemed like campy do-gooder shyt...i haven't read comics in close to twenty years so please save your backlash. I know times have changed and they're exceptions to storylines.

X-Men and Batman were my shyt because I saw parts of myself in those characters. Someone who tries to do right in life, but falls short on occasion and sometimes someone who does fukked up shyt. Even the villains weren't all pure evil.

Good thread idea and thesis.

I definitely see this with a lot...a lot of black people. White people I'm assuming are just all over the map.

 

[Black Nate Grey]

It depends.
I love Blue Marvel not only for his powers but because he is a black character with a supergenius level intellect.
Same with T'challa. Deathstroke too. They are all powerful characters with little to no flaws.
But I don't fukk with Riri Williams the same way. She doesn't interest me at all.

Yet, Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock and Thanos are my outright favorites, supremely powerful, but still flawed.
I honestly hated Superman until Man of Steel, I always preferred Captain Marvel/Shazam to him. After MoS I started reading more into him and now he's in my top 10. I prefer New52 Supes to Post-Crisis as well.

Uchiha's >>>> The rest of Naruto.

So I suppose I'm somewhere in between; Powerful but flawed.

 

[hotbeezie]

I like powerful characters myself, but I cam about to get these Hylian Crests on the front of both of my challenger side view mirrors

 

[Concerning VIolence]

There's some merit to this.

I know that hardcore Black Panther fans (check the MCU thread and the CBR forums ) HATE Ta-Nehisi Coates'take on T'challa. They think he "takes too much Ls". and "doesn't do the character justice". It's only the really hardcore and longtime fans that have this grudge against Coates.

A lof these disgruntled BP fans just want to see T'challa be inexplicably badass and fulfill that ultmate power fantasy which ALREADY exists inherently in his character but it's seen as a disgrace T'challa gets retstrained by 6 guards or something.

 

[Concerning VIolence]

I generally have hated your Superman's, Fantastic Four, your Captain America's...in fact I can't stand most of DC outside of Batman because it all seemed like campy do-gooder shyt...

Same here,. I still haven't been dig deep into DC comics. Plus their aversion to diversity.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

I don’t like powerful characters or overtly righteous heroes. I prefer more realistic characters who struggle to do the right thing. Superman and Capt. America are boring imo...

 

[Slystallion]

How high was this guy?

 

[NZA]

i pretty much understand where you are going with this but i dont really agree with some of your assertions. saiyans take lots of Ls. taking Ls seems to be the most potent way for them to get stronger...
also, a lot of hood people root for gangsters in "white" movies, and the gangster always seems to lose in the end in the white movie. i think there is a subset of the black audience that is into rebellious nihilism which results in some Ls

i do think mainstream, socially conservative black people prefer straightforward narratives. those kinds of heroes are the ones most denied of us during the early days of cinema (we didnt get movies of black cowboys in white hats during the silent era, or straightlaced black G-men during the 40s-50s) i think many of us were taught by our exclusion from that kind of role that that is the ideal, so many of us are inclined to really want it as a sign that we are "normalized" in this society (i see this in the people who complain that denzel got his oscar for being a crooked cop instead of for playing a soldier or civil rights activist)

white people have already had all the straight laced roles so they are just bored with them. they also have seen their foundational myths fail, so they want movies with "edge". that edge is in exposing how the nuclear family is stifling, or that high acheivement in the corporate world comes at a cost to integrity or their mastery at creating digital technology has left them emotionally isolated.

obviously, there are black people who do enjoy those kinds of things, but it's just not as common an experience for our people. the stifling nuclear family or soul-sucking corporate job is a step up in status for many of us. we have people actively trying to get a piece of that and want characters to reflect it

 

[Art Barr]

the issues you run into with black heros as a creator and writer is the underlying ideal.
that eventually said character regardless of race will have to tackle on governmental structurized racism.
of which sends the entire venture of creating into basic radical propaganda.
or basically creating a handbook on treacherous mutiny and treason by other groups.

so, that is one of the huge issues with instituting and creating a black writer and illustrator.
then, having to have them apply their skill to a white world.
as eventually, as a creator you will get hit with the fact...you have to create a handbook on mutiny just to have a good hero being black.
of which most people who create material of this type.
usually seek it out to escape from the narcissistic conditions of racism as it is.

so, that is an issue many who don't create don't know about and don't know will be generally asked of a creator, and or his creation being black.


art barr

at the end of the day,...
you will get hit with the:
what you doing for the brothers when it comes to making a black superhero.

 

[Knowledge]

I'm black and I prefer villains

 

[Serious]

dope thread subs....

 

[BXKingPin82]

theres a part of me that wants all characters to be like Deadpool.
the amount of fukkery ive seen in my life actually warrants that shyt.