Harold Perrineau: Stop Saying My Daughter’s Not Black Enough for ‘Jem and the Holograms’

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He crushed you by adding perspective to your narrative, which was misleading. The actress looked so black that she sparked controversy. Which is different from casting an ambiguous mix-race actor, who doesn't look so black, to play a black character with a reference image

What some people thought about the actor is irrelevant to the fact the producer put a mixed race girl in place of a black girl. We don't know what the casting director thought exactly but the fact he properly casted Thresh and didn't properly cast Rue, both of whom were slated to come from the same area and have the same features, implies he knew that Rue was supposed to be like Thresh. In other words, dark skin black.


Both actors being light skinned to play a dark skin character is one suspect move, but both actors not being required to look black, is another suspect move, and it is the core argument against the Jem casting

The same argument works for Amandla and Rue casting.


Who hasn't read that book. That description of Rue and Thresh was dark brown, and they mentioned thick hair(very subjective meaning). Could they have cast these fictional roles with dark brown, black or indian actors, sure, because the description was not detailing features that could help distinguish between "dark brown," so they chose black actors, with Rue clearly looking like a black girl. Two different scenarios, there's no way that character from Jem could be mistaken for an indian due to the image/

The fact the casting director properly cast Thresh as a dark skin black men yet didn't do the same to Rue implies the casting director knew that both were black, yet nevertheless cast Rue as a mixed chick. You can't assume the casting director subjectively misinterpreted the book's black descriptions when Thresh was properly cast as black.


Again, provide proof that dark skin actors were to be cast for empire. You naming Wesley Snipes, while not adding the perspective of his relationship with his co-star, his fallen stock, and suspect comments in the past, is your attempt at pushing another misleading narrative

Both Snipes and Howard have said untoward things about black women so that's not a valid reason to replace Snipes with Howard. The likely reason is Hollywood colorism, especially in light of what Taraji said about Ryan Gosling.

In every country they look more like their fathers than mothers? but then you say it's different for Amandla because her mother is dark...you just contradicted yourself. Amandla skin color is not why she doesn't look like her father. It's due to traits and genes.

I am aware of the reasons Amandla looks the way she does buts he is an exception. Most times the children doesn't look very black. This is why bedwenches are always asked stuff like, "Are you a nanny", because that's what it looks like. This is how Brazil and Argentina whitened their population.

"In every country" do not not have the majority of the population being offsprings of interracial relationships, thus the notion of "race of her father" is not universally applied. In all countries, the majority of the population is the same race, the attributes passed down to the child from the father are commonly religious, cultural, and ethnic based

The above paragraph doesn't even make sense. In countries where the aforementioned interracial relationship is the norm, the children follow the father. It was so in Argentina; it was so in Brazil; it was so in all the Americas. The only places where blackness and black peoplehood predominate, as opposed to white people and white supremacy, in the Americas is where black men are primarily fathers (i.e. the USA and the Carribean). Stop.


That "race of her father" is flawed because you cannot categorize a mix-raced child that looks black as white, even though they have a white father

What?
 

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Here she is with her boyfriend :



^ This is really all that needs to be said, but I'll explain a bit further

Go through her twitter timeline. She talking about any black issues? She have any BLM tweets? She so much as mention any of this shyt that's been going on over the past 2 years?

Nope!

She wants to hang out with white people, ignore black issues, date and sleep exclusively with white men, and for all intents and purposes live her life as a white valley girl bytch.

I *guaran-fukking-tee* that in her personal life, she's "biracial, not black" or on that "I don't see color, we are all one" nonsense.

But the great irony....these white men will fukk you. These white girls will hang out with you. But when it comes to their business....she's just another ****** to those industry types.

Zoe Kravitz recently caught her own wake-up call. She was bytching and moaning about not being able to audition for The Dark Knight.

These black-when-convenient ass bytches need to kick rocks and stop trying to have shyt both ways.
 

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So glad people are speaking up on this. Black people, especially black entertainers shouldn't continue to let those who do not truly represent our community represent us in the media, especially when there are actual black people who are capable of doing it
 

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Here she is with her boyfriend :



^ This is really all that needs to be said, but I'll explain a bit further

Go through her twitter timeline. She talking about any black issues? She have any BLM tweets? She so much as mention any of this shyt that's been going on over the past 2 years?

Nope!

She wants to hang out with white people, ignore black issues, date and sleep exclusively with white men, and for all intents and purposes live her life as a white valley girl bytch.

I *guaran-fukking-tee* that in her personal life, she's "biracial, not black" or on that "I don't see color, we are all one" nonsense.

But the great irony....these white men will fukk you. These white girls will hang out with you. But when it comes to their business....she's just another ****** to those industry types.

Zoe Kravitz recently caught her own wake-up call. She was bytching and moaning about not being able to audition for The Dark Knight.

These black-when-convenient ass bytches need to kick rocks and stop trying to have shyt both ways.


Honestly i dont blame the daughter. I blame the dad. Fact of the matter...is black entertainers live a different reality so they see things from their bubble. Even then many black people are easy buy if the price is high enough.

Again...you cannot marry non-black and think you can combat white supremacy. There's a conflict of interest and there will always be.

I am sure black women will be portrayed as bitter/hateful/jealous of biracial women and silenced as they always are. The girl isnt black...one drop rule be damned and because of that she reap the benefits of living in white scoiety.

:yeshrug:
 

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Honestly i dont blame the daughter. I blame the dad. Fact of the matter...is black entertainers live a different reality so they see things from their bubble. Even then many black people are easy buy if the price is high enough.

Again...you cannot marry non-black and think you can combat white supremacy. There's a conflict of interest and there will always be.

I am sure black women will be portrayed as bitter/hateful/jealous of biracial women and silenced as they always are. The girl isnt black...one drop rule be damned and because of that she reap the benefits of living in white scoiety.

:yeshrug:

Don't think Harold cares about combating white supremacy :skip:
 

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She a special case. In Honey she was the White girl. Then the Latin explosion part II happened and she was allowed to be classified as Latina. Which would have made her white worshipping grandaddy crazy but whatever.

She marries a half black nikka has a kid gets the Sue Storm role and now she's too erhnic to play Sue. She got J. Bealed, latin version.
wait that dude who alba is married to is half black? i thought he was white, he looks like matt leinhart.
 

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What some people thought about the actor is irrelevant to the fact the producer put a mixed race girl in place of a black girl. We don't know what the casting director thought exactly but the fact he properly casted Thresh and didn't properly cast Rue, both of whom were slated to come from the same area and have the same features, implies he knew that Rue was supposed to be like Thresh. In other words, dark skin black.
You are clearly on some bu bu what about black-on-black crime, deflection argument technique. You are using white supremacist tactics, while complaining about white supremacy
The sole reason why you brought up Rue 's casting is to try to deflect, inject confusion and undermine the core argument of those who oppose the non-requirement of an actor to look and be black, in other to play a black character

Hollywood's use of light skin actors to cater to white supremacist ideals is nothing new. In fact, the casting of an ambiguously mix-race actor, to play a black character, is an extension of that very common practice.
Pointing out that common practice does not prove that the outrage of the Jem casting is misdirected, wrong, or unnecessary. It actually helps the case because it clearly demonstrates an agenda behind the casting that is not based in the talent of the actor, but on their looks

You trying to compare how black women reacted differently to both castings, does not add anything in the discussion or prove that the outrage Jem casting is misdirected, wrong, or unnecessary

The same argument works for Amandla and Rue casting.
smh. The argument was about the non-requirement of an actor to look black and be black, on order to play a black character. You already said that Amandla looks black due to her mother's dark skin. So clearly that argument does not apply to Amandla because she looks like a light skinned black woman

The fact the casting director properly cast Thresh as a dark skin black men yet didn't do the same to Rue implies the casting director knew that both were black, yet nevertheless cast Rue as a mixed chick. You can't assume the casting director subjectively misinterpreted the book's black descriptions when Thresh was properly cast as black.
I'm not assuming anything, I'm just presenting the fact that the generic description of Rue could've been played by a dark skin indian or black actors
You are trying to play games by being intellectually dishonest...you calling Amandla a "mixed chick," while not specifying the most important part, which is that she looks like a black woman VERSUS the Jem casting of a "mix chick," that doesn't look like a black woman


Both Snipes and Howard have said untoward things about black women so that's not a valid reason to replace Snipes with Howard. The likely reason is Hollywood colorism, especially in light of what Taraji said about Ryan Gosling.
lol. I specified three possible reasons why Wesley may not have gotten the part, you focused on one, while ignoring the others because there's noway to prove the other two were not factors
So it's clear that you don't have any proof that the casting was for dark skin actors. I was expecting you to provide casting call descriptions that were published in magazines and sent to agents of all the actors to shut me down, but instead you provide nothing

I am aware of the reasons Amandla looks the way she does buts he is an exception. Most times the children doesn't look very black. This is why bedwenches are always asked stuff like, "Are you a nanny", because that's what it looks like. This is how Brazil and Argentina whitened their population.
Hmmm, so you gonna use the exception argument so we could only focus on those examples that fit your misleading narrative, while ignoring others examples that don't fit your narrative like
-Derek Jeter,
-The Rock,
-Blake Griffin
-Tony Parker
-Bob Marley
-Lenny Kravitz

Men with either black or white fathers, but yet without knowing their father, you could easily mislabel their racial makeup because their father's traits and genes are not dominant in their physical apperance. So again, that is why "race of your father" argument is very flawed if you are ignoring the physical appearance of the offspring

The above paragraph doesn't even make sense. In countries where the aforementioned interracial relationship is the norm, the children follow the father. It was so in Argentina; it was so in Brazil; it was so in all the Americas. The only places where blackness and black peoplehood predominate, as opposed to white people and white supremacy, in the Americas is where black men are primarily fathers (i.e. the USA and the Carribean). Stop.
Brazil? :russ: completely wrong.

The degree of miscegenation in Brazil has been very high, as Brazil was colonized by male Portuguese adventurers who tended to procreate with Amerindian and African women. This made possible a myth of "racial democracy" that tends to obscure a widespread discrimination connected to certain aspects of physical appearance aspects related to the concept of cor (literally "colour"), used in a way that is roughly equivalent to the English term "race" but based on a combination of skin colour, hair type, and shape of nose and lips. It is possible for siblings to belong to different "colour" categories. So a "White" Brazilian is a person perceived and socially accepted as "White", regardless of ancestry or sometimes even immediate family
Race and ethnicity in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, the "race of your father" argument is very flawed if you are ignoring the physical appearance of the offspring
In other countries, the majority are of the same race, thus the "race of your father" argument does not apply. A country like Brazil, still relies on the physical appearance, but yet US blacks want to blindly and ignorantly apply the "race of your father" argument and the one-drop rule, while ignoring physical appearance.smh

That statement is being implemented in the country that you tried to use as a supporting example of your incorrect stance
 

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You are clearly on some bu bu what about black-on-black crime, deflection argument technique. You are using white supremacist tactics, while complaining about white supremacy
The sole reason why you brought up Rue 's casting is to try to deflect, inject confusion and undermine the core argument of those who oppose the non-requirement of an actor to look and be black, in other to play a black character

Hollywood's use of light skin actors to cater to white supremacist ideals is nothing new. In fact, the casting of an ambiguously mix-race actor, to play a black character, is an extension of that very common practice.
Pointing out that common practice does not prove that the outrage of the Jem casting is misdirected, wrong, or unnecessary. It actually helps the case because it clearly demonstrates an agenda behind the casting that is not based in the talent of the actor, but on their looks

This issue is a black woman-driven--not black male--issue and I'm just saying black women are hypocrites, which we all already know, but intermittently needs reminder as to their duplitious anti-black feminine wiles.


You trying to compare how black women reacted differently to both castings, does not add anything in the discussion or prove that the outrage Jem casting is misdirected, wrong, or unnecessary

It provides perspective and expose some black women's fake militancy anti-black male views.


smh. The argument was about the non-requirement of an actor to look black and be black, on order to play a black character. You already said that Amandla looks black due to her mother's dark skin. So clearly that argument does not apply to Amandla because she looks like a light skinned black woman

Amandla looks a mixed person. She looks like a darker one than usual because of her mother, but still mixed. When she dresses like a Cali faq, you can see the cac. You don't know what a black person looks like.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just presenting the fact that the generic description of Rue could've been played by a dark skin indian or black actors
You are trying to play games by being intellectually dishonest...you calling Amandla a "mixed chick," while not specifying the most important part, which is that she looks like a black woman VERSUS the Jem casting of a "mix chick," that doesn't look like a black woman

No she couldn't. Amandla is a mixed chick and that's why the director cast her above a black chick, same as Jem and Perrineau. Perrineau actually looked more black when she was a child which implies she bleached her skin.



lol. I specified three possible reasons why Wesley may not have gotten the part, you focused on one, while ignoring the others because there's noway to prove the other two were not factors
So it's clear that you don't have any proof that the casting was for dark skin actors. I was expecting you to provide casting call descriptions that were published in magazines and sent to agents of all the actors to shut me down, but instead you provide nothing

The easiest reason is likely the right one, and that reason is because some black female named Taraji rejected Wesley Snapes for Terrance Howard in spite of both having made controversial statements about black women. I don't even think Taraji cares about black men.


Hmmm, so you gonna use the exception argument so we could only focus on those examples that fit your misleading narrative, while ignoring others examples that don't fit your narrative like
-Derek Jeter,
-The Rock,
-Blake Griffin
-Tony Parker
-Bob Marley
-Lenny Kravitz

On average, black male fathers have blacker looking children than black females whom have mixed children. If you take the average black female and breed her out, the race is lost, as is what happened in other countries.

Men with either black or white fathers, but yet without knowing their father, you could easily mislabel their racial makeup because their father's traits and genes are not dominant in their physical apperance. So again, that is why "race of your father" argument is very flawed if you are ignoring the physical appearance of the offspring

No I'm not ignoring the physical appearance of a person's offspring. Moreover the national trends in countries support my notion. Countries with primarily black fathers and non-black mothers are black countries. Countries with non-black fathers and black countries are non-black countries. This is partly because black fathers have blacker-looking children on average and children follow their fathers.


Brazil? :russ: completely wrong.


Race and ethnicity in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, the "race of your father" argument is very flawed if you are ignoring the physical appearance of the offspring
In other countries, the majority are of the same race, thus the "race of your father" argument does not apply. A country like Brazil, still relies on the physical appearance, but yet US blacks want to blindly and ignorantly apply the "race of your father" argument and the one-drop rule, while ignoring physical appearance.smh

Brazil is a mixed race country ruled by whites, white men, people who think they're white and white supremacy. Because Brazil relies purely on physical appearance, no one identifies as black because many barely look it. Same as Argentina.
 
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Here she is with her boyfriend :



^ This is really all that needs to be said, but I'll explain a bit further

Go through her twitter timeline. She talking about any black issues? She have any BLM tweets? She so much as mention any of this shyt that's been going on over the past 2 years?

Nope!

She wants to hang out with white people, ignore black issues, date and sleep exclusively with white men, and for all intents and purposes live her life as a white valley girl bytch.

I *guaran-fukking-tee* that in her personal life, she's "biracial, not black" or on that "I don't see color, we are all one" nonsense.

But the great irony....these white men will fukk you. These white girls will hang out with you. But when it comes to their business....she's just another ****** to those industry types.

Zoe Kravitz recently caught her own wake-up call. She was bytching and moaning about not being able to audition for The Dark Knight.

These black-when-convenient ass bytches need to kick rocks and stop trying to have shyt both ways.


Alright alright, hope she doesn't get any black roles then. Or, ultimately, a roles at all. :ehh:
 
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This issue is a black woman-driven--not black male--issue and I'm just saying black women are hypocrites, which we all already know, but intermittently needs reminder as to their duplitious anti-black feminine wiles.

It provides perspective and expose some black women's fake militancy anti-black male views.
I don't know the source of your issues with certain black women, which makes you feel justified in trying to derail an important issue so that you could address them. But it's counter productive to try to deflect and inject confusion about separate issues that does not directly counter or support any of the two prevailing view points in this story


Amandla looks a mixed person. You don't know what a black person looks like.

No she couldn't. Amandla is a mixed chick and that's why the director cast her above a black chick, same as Jem and Perrineau. Perrineau looks part black.
It's clear you are arguing just to argue now
You already said she looks black, so why is there a need to mention the mix-race and then question if I know how black people look?
But yet the ambiguously mix-woman, you claim she looks part black, while not saying that also looks like many other ethnicity too, despite having a white and black parents
Do you not see the absurdity and the contradictions in what you are talmbowt

The easiest reason is likely the right one, and that reason is because some black female named Taraji rejected Wesley Snapes for Terrance Howard in spite of both having made controversial statements about black women. I don't even think Taraji cares about black men.
stopped reading at that point. You are arguing just to argue now with the speculating and no proofs

On average, black male fathers have blacker looking children than black females whom have mixed children. If you take the average black female and breed her out, the race is lost, as is what happened in other countries.

The average and exception arguments you are pushing need receipts. Once your argument needs to minimize or ignore the existence of counter-examples, then how strong could it be. My argument covers all examples

No I'm not ignoring the physical appearance of a person's offspring. Moreover the national trends in countries support my notion. Countries with primarily black fathers and non-black mothers are black countries. Countries with non-black fathers and black countries are non-black countries. This is partly because black fathers have blacker-looking children on average and children follow their fathers.
Name these countries

Brazil is a mixed race country ruled by whites, white men, people who think they're white and white supremacy. Because Brazil relies purely on physical appearance, no one identifies as black because many barely look it. Same as Argentina.
Brazil, like the majority of the world relies on physical appearance because humans have eyes. Your argument would mean that Bob Marley is a white man, which is absurd
 

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wait that dude who alba is married to is half black? i thought he was white, he looks like matt leinhart.
Cash Warren is black.

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Cash and his daddy.

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Daddy Warren now and when he was on Hill Street Blues 30 years ago.


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The Warren Granddaughters. Breeding the black right out, yessiree. fukking bedbucks. But anyway, Cash is black. At least in America. In the rest of the world I reckon he's jet white, like Kris Humphries and Ali's grandkid via Luigi Gloves.
 

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Here she is with her boyfriend :



^ This is really all that needs to be said, but I'll explain a bit further

Go through her twitter timeline. She talking about any black issues? She have any BLM tweets? She so much as mention any of this shyt that's been going on over the past 2 years?

Nope!


fukk her, but fukk Harold Perric00n more.
 
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