Harold Perrineau: Stop Saying My Daughter’s Not Black Enough for ‘Jem and the Holograms’

[Stacker Pentecost]

True and that is also the issue why you all these swirl couples on TV shows but can barely find one or two shows with black couples on it. The reason is black couples equal too black and a couple with only one black person equals OK and not too black.

See it is multiple layers to this shyt. My problem is folks pick and choose on this shyt when it is an attack on all black folks on TV. Not just black girls or black men or black couples. It is an attack on all blacks.

I watch YouTube webseries and Bounce network which has a full run of Black shows with Black couples. No time for that swirl shyt on mainstream media.

Bounce TV — TV Our Way

The Black&Sexy channel on YouTube is really good.

BLACK & SEXY NOW

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I mean it isn't her fault. She just auditioned for a movie. But Hollywood is a fukked up place that doesn't like dark skinned black women. They want to change the definition of black to fit their ideals. But by the same token I don't buy her bullshyt about always identifying as black. She seems like the token who gets told she isn't black by her white friends. I can't stand when mulattoes pull that double shyt. Don't fukking be black only when it is convenient. Hollywood needs to knock it off with this. Stop casting mulattoes into black roles. They already only put 1 black person of each gender in works. You'd never see a mulatto cast as a white person. This girl wouldn't be cast as Jem would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Marlyn Monroe, would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Princess Diana would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Hilary Clinton would she? Then stop doing it the other way around. If you want mulattoes in movies and shyt give them their own roles. Instead of 6 white people 2 blacks and a Mexican/Asian in a movie how about 5 white people, 2 blacks, a Mexican/Asian and a Mulatto?

You are absolutely right. The fukking c00ns won't respond to this though I'm sure.

 

[Homey the clown]

Brehs hating on this girl because she doesn't look black.

She may not look black but doesn't really look white either.She looks racially ambiguous in my eyes.The girl considers herself black, so are we to tell her she isn't? One of my sister in laws is Black/white, but if you look at her she looks Middle eastern but she considers herself black would you tell her she isn't black because she doesn't look the way you think black people should look like? A lot of you posters who are making rude comments about this girl if you went to Tanzania or some other African Country would stand out if you stood with a group of people from one of those countries.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Thank you breh this is the smartest post in here. First I am not gonna trip on any dude that defends his daughter from attacks. You know how folks love to be ignorant on the internet and dog people out so I can't blame old boy for defending his daughter.

Second of all we need to stop acting like casting light skin or mixed black folks is new. shyt 2/5s of the Cosby kids were mixed or light skin. We can go back to shows and movies in the 80s, 70s and 60s. I don't know why folks acting brand new about this shyt.

Secondly modern day black folks mostly talk but ain't about to boycott shyt. You know the reason why black shows in the 90s, 80s and 70s had black folks of all completions and looks? Cause black folks demanded it (especially in the 70s and 80s). If the show didn't look and feel authentically black they would call that shyt out and even protest and boycott it. Now a days negros will watch that shyt just cause one black person is in the show (oh and don't let them be a lead. Black folks gonna give the show full support).

Case in point (about how black folks didnt take that shyt like now) the famous scene in the god father where they were saying give the drugs to the blacks. Well originally the language in the scene was calling blacks N-words and monkeys. Black folks protested and had the language for the scene changed. And even after the language was changed blacks still protested the movie because the scene still talked about blacks in a negative light.

But these folks now a day can bytch about the images of blacks on shows and still toon in every week to see some shows making blacks look ignorant, have no black couples (but plenty of swirling) and very few blacks of dark complexions.

Never knew this, but because they frequently replay this movie, I wish they would've kept it in for the reality of the situation. A reminder of the past and present plight of the black community
Due to the fear of being accused of using "victimhood" and "blaming others" to explain some of the contributions to the black plight from "outsiders", too many of us feel more comfortable with minimizing those contributions, while maximizing the "insider's" contribution. When there is no need to focus exclusively on one or the other, since both contributions could be addressed

There are a few movies/shows that provided a glimpse into the negative mindset and actions against the black community. Another show that did it subtly was Madmen with a particular scene that rings true nowadays. I talked about it in another thread

Great show. I watched every episode.
It starts in the fifties, through the years it displayed "racial progression," like when the story line continues during the sixties, seventies

It's not about black folks struggles, but it gives subtle glimpses at times of the black plight, back then and even now
Like in one scene, the firm is pitching to a TV set company. They suggest that the TV company should tap into a potentially very profitable demographic...the negro community

The mad-men says that research showed that the TV set company was already popular among negros, so they should consider advertising directly to the negro community and should place ads in newly created publication called Ebony Magazine...the TV set company gave them then said, "What makes you think that the reason we are so popular with them, isn't due to us not advertising to them" I had chills when I heard that exchange

 

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[Isaiah Bradley]

Yep dikk gregory and a few other folks such as Jessie Jackson and Bev Smith. Folks need to understand this shyt ain't new. Hell Lena Horne use to catch hell back in the day from black folks in the 50s and 60s because they felt she was too light and Hollywood used her as the go to black girl to cast in movies.

But like I said black folks stayed on Hollywood and when we had the black television movie and TV explosion in the 70s you had a diverse look of black folks in skin color and weight. All because black folks said we want images we can relate to.

shyt all gone now......you know why. Cause black folks accept this shyt and won't take away that viewership and green backs.

I agree mostly with what you are saying but to maintain perspective, that blaxploitation period has also contributed heavily to the negative conditioning of black folks and the rampant spread of stereotypes. Like NWA music, alot of black folks embraced false realities and negative philosophies as their own due to those movies

 

[Originalman]

I agree mostly with what you are saying but to maintain perspective, that blaxploitation period has also contributed heavily to the negative conditioning of black folks and the rampant spread of stereotypes. Like NWA music, alot of black folks embraced false realities and negative philosophies as their own due to those movies

I totally agree with that. But I was referring to what the black folks looked like in the 70s on TV shows and movies.

But you are right about black exploitation movies of the 70s I have mentioned that on this very site. I have also mentioned how at first the black exploitation movies were about social content. But then white Hollywood took the social conscious out of it(this even came to a head when the movie spook who sat by the door was removed from theatres by the government and by hollywood). Just like how mainstream rap had social conscious in it and then had it taken out of it by corporate America and the music industry.

 

[Originalman]

Never knew this, but because they frequently replay this movie, I wish they would've kept it in for the reality of the situation. A reminder of the past and present plight of the black community
Due to the fear of being accused of using "victimhood" and "blaming others" to explain some of the contributions to the black plight from "outsiders", too many of us feel more comfortable with minimizing those contributions, while maximizing the "insider's" contribution. When there is no need to focus exclusively on one or the other, since both contributions could be addressed

There are a few movies/shows that provided a glimpse into the negative mindset and actions against the black community. Another show that did it subtly was Madmen with a particular scene that rings true nowadays. I talked about it in another thread

I have seen the god father trilogy and have always had issues with that scene and the overall trilogy. I guess I always had issues that old dude and his son lived to die at old ages when that wasn't realistic. It also shows how whites loved to immortalize their murderous criminals.

As far as made men I have seen the show as well. But have never cared for it nor do I care for any of the shows on cable or most of TV. I never cared how they never truely deal with institutional racism on any of these shows. But love to throw in subtle jabs at black folks.

As a kid I always wanted to see if cable expanded how the stories would possible get pushed to the extreme (something like spike Lee on do the right thing or malcolm x). But foolishly as a kid I had no idea that cable expansion would be used to make more stories of sex and violence.

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

Brehs hating on this girl because she doesn't look black.

She may not look black but doesn't really look white either.She looks racially ambiguous in my eyes.The girl considers herself black, so are we to tell her she isn't? One of my sister in laws is Black/white, but if you look at her she looks Middle eastern but she considers herself black would you tell her she isn't black because she doesn't look the way you think black people should look like? A lot of you posters who are making rude comments about this girl if you went to Tanzania or some other African Country would stand out if you stood with a group of people from one of those countries.

Keep missing the point breh

 

[Originalman]

Brehs hating on this girl because she doesn't look black.

She may not look black but doesn't really look white either.She looks racially ambiguous in my eyes.The girl considers herself black, so are we to tell her she isn't? One of my sister in laws is Black/white, but if you look at her she looks Middle eastern but she considers herself black would you tell her she isn't black because she doesn't look the way you think black people should look like? A lot of you posters who are making rude comments about this girl if you went to Tanzania or some other African Country would stand out if you stood with a group of people from one of those countries.

I hear you man and this is off subject (however I do look at these things from all angles). But the thing is the coli says if you are mixed you are not black. And that a if you do not come from two black parents you are not black.

So if this is all true by coli logic then Obama kids are not black correct? Cause Obama is not black (by Coli standard) and because he is not black both girls did not come from two black parents.

Another thing is one of the main reasons America and white america has become so powerful is because they have accepted whites as we know of today, who were not considered whites in the past. But because the numbers of anglos were small and the growing black and other non white populations they began to accept the so called white groups listed above.

There was a time when the polish, white Jews, Irish, italians and many eastern Europeans could not be grouped in with whites. But once blacks were free and their numbers increased white folks circled the wagon and started to accept those groups into the white population because that meant more power for whites as a whole. A balled up fist is much stronger than 4 fingers and a thumb.

 

[Originalman]

I watch YouTube webseries and Bounce network which has a full run of Black shows with Black couples. No time for that swirl shyt on mainstream media.

Bounce TV — TV Our Way

The Black&Sexy channel on YouTube is really good.

BLACK & SEXY NOW

Thanks brotha I will have to start tuning in.

 

[Originalman]

You are absolutely right. The fukking c00ns won't respond to this though I'm sure.

He makes a great point but that means white folks got to give up one of those roles. Which they not so who they gonna take the role from? A black person.

Also mixed folks do play white people a times though rare. Not famous white folks but regular white folks. Racially ambiguous folks (when they press or cut that curly kinky hair)like the Rock, the dude from prison break, (girl from flash dance) and everyone's favorite mixed dude the Vin sweat booty diesel.

There are folks who are mixed that look just as black as a lot of black folks. I believe folks issue is when they are racially ambiguous looking. If they are Halle Berry or Reagan Gomez-Preston or Eva Pigford folks are less likely to bytch. Because they look like many black folks. But racially ambiguous folks being cast that is where the big issues come in.

 

[notPsychosiz]

I hear you fam.

It's a sad situation.

She's a victim of a fukked up situation.

She's only a victim of having her bloodstream corrupted by her c00n father's choices. The rest is on her.
She would be able to stifle the backlash if there was anything she could point to that indicates she deserves to portray a black woman, but she can't cause she lives the life of a spoiled lil Hollywood white bytch.

fukk her.

Perfect example of this is another Hasbro movie. They cast The Rock to play Roadblock. A classic GI Joe character and one of the goto representarions of African-American's in the GI Joe franchise.

Rock is lighter than Roadblock, and The Rock is mixed same as this bytch. Diference is The Rock identifies as a black man and doesn't pretend he has no part of black issues. That doesnt mean he dismisses his Samoan heritage. He embraces both. This chick on the other hand is basically a white bytch.Thats why she is keeping her mouth shut and letting her black dad weigh in.

 

[GreatestLaker]

I mean it isn't her fault. She just auditioned for a movie. But Hollywood is a fukked up place that doesn't like dark skinned black women. They want to change the definition of black to fit their ideals. But by the same token I don't buy her bullshyt about always identifying as black. She seems like the token who gets told she isn't black by her white friends. I can't stand when mulattoes pull that double shyt. Don't fukking be black only when it is convenient. Hollywood needs to knock it off with this. Stop casting mulattoes into black roles. They already only put 1 black person of each gender in works. You'd never see a mulatto cast as a white person. This girl wouldn't be cast as Jem would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Marlyn Monroe, would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Princess Diana would she? This girl wouldn't be cast as Hilary Clinton would she? Then stop doing it the other way around. If you want mulattoes in movies and shyt give them their own roles. Instead of 6 white people 2 blacks and a Mexican/Asian in a movie how about 5 white people, 2 blacks, a Mexican/Asian and a Mulatto?

If you idiots wouldn't have accepted mulattoes as being black this shyt wouldn't be happening. Its y'all own fault blacks are being replaced with mulattoes.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Brehs hating on this girl because she doesn't look black.

She may not look black but doesn't really look white either.She looks racially ambiguous in my eyes.The girl considers herself black, so are we to tell her she isn't? One of my sister in laws is Black/white, but if you look at her she looks Middle eastern but she considers herself black would you tell her she isn't black because she doesn't look the way you think black people should look like? A lot of you posters who are making rude comments about this girl if you went to Tanzania or some other African Country would stand out if you stood with a group of people from one of those countries.

Blue contacts straight hair and light skin does not equal Shana.

They sure as hell didnt cast Aurora or the Eurasian chick as Jem or Kimber.... So why is it Black folk have to have a white looking chick or we're not with the program, but they dont pull a Frank Dillane and cast Jem or Kimber in the same way?

This has been touched on multiple times in this thread. Aurora's problem is not her mixed race, its her white washedness when applied to an unambiguously black character in a world where there are too few as it is.

A young Stacy Dash or Rachel True would be better fits than Aurora. Skin wise. Removing her fro is unforgiveable after that.

fukk Harold Perrineau. Hate it had to be him, but those c00n smile photos tell the whole story. The real story.