Harden to Houston

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Should have paid him and traded Ibakas one dimensional ass

 

[Leasy]

Should have paid him and traded Ibakas one dimensional ass

Exactly kept Harden and traded Westbrook for a real PG. They are regretting it though.

 

[Skip b]

Harden and Westbrook play the same position and do the same thing. One had to go obviously.

Harden is better than Westbrook in every facet which even made the decision even more foolish they should of shopped Westbrook, teams wasn't scared of Westbrook last year he might dominate but his persistence would ruin the flow of games and shot his team in the foot at times, It was Harden who put fear into those teams not West and even Durant to a lessor degree, by Harden constantly breaking them down at will and getting the the basket and line with ease, teams like the Lakers and Spurs had issues had no answers, OKC simply dont have that wildcard anymore

They broke up a big 3 for no fukking reason, and they didnt even get to see their best, how dare a coach justify putting a superstar of this caliber on the bench, especially in the playoffs when he looked lost because it's hard to come off the bench and match that intensity and fire the stars plays with when it's show time. OKC was out gunned vs Miami and they keep one of their biggest guns on the bench then gets rid of him. Basically OKC fukked up, i'm not sold on their coaching, this move will forever haunt them as they will never when a chip......

 

[thatrapsfan]

Hasheem Thabeet might be the worst pick of all time in retrospect. Might be worse than Darko over Wade, Bosh.

 

[Houston911]

Harden is better than Westbrook in every facet which even made the decision even more foolish they should of shopped Westbrook, teams wasn't scared of Westbrook last year he might dominate but his persistence.
would ruin the flow of games, It was Harden put fear into those teams not West and even Durant to a lessor degree, by Harden constantly breaking them down at will and getting the the basket and line with ease, teams like the Lakers and Spurs had issues whad no answers, they simply dont have that wildcard anymore

They broke up a big 3 for no fukking reason, and they didnt even get to see their best, how dare a coach justify putting a superstar of this caliber on the bench, especially in the playoffs when he looked lost because it's hard to come off the bench and match that intensity and fire the stars plays with when it's show time. OKC was out gunned vs Miami and they keep one of their biggest guns on the bench then gets rid of him. Basically OKC fukked up, i'm not sold on their coaching, this move will forever haunt them as they will never when a chip......

Harden didnt do anything against the lakers except when he was being guarded by steve blake

Teams were scared of harden? Miami says otherwise

Okc obviously prefers russ over harden so james isnt getting these touches in okc. They replaced harden with martin and havent missed a beat. Hardens full talents werent gonna be utilized in okc with scott brooks

Ibaka is the only big in thr league who can knock down midrange shots, run the floor and block shots. Hes rare

 

[Skip b]

Harden didnt do anything against the lakers except when he was being guarded by steve blake

Teams were scared of harden? Miami says otherwise

Okc obviously prefers russ over harden so james isnt getting these touches in okc. They replaced harden with martin and havent missed a beat. Hardens full talents werent gonna be utilized in okc with scott brooks

Ibaka is the only big in thr league who can knock down midrange shots, run the floor and block shots. Hes rare

nikka Harden wrote the book on how to deal with this older Laker team


And how the fukk is Harden supposed to match Dwade, Lebron, and the heat intensity waltzing off the bench expecting him to produce and make up for Durant sleep walking, harden was completely out of groove and sync with his team. If the coach had any foresight he would have put all 3 in the starting lineup so Harden could take his blows early and then weather the storm and fight back with his team,, not get thrown into of a all out war where all the pressure would be on him to be the x factor

 

[MoneyTron]

this dude is playing like the best 2guard in the league right now......not saying he is......but he sure is playing like it.... hes averaging 27,5 and 6 whiles shooting 45%. He doesn't force things, he lets the game come to him.....can get to the bucket at will.......can create.....can handle....can shoot....

Better than that, over the last month he's playing as well as Bron. 30/8/7 on 56/55/84 shooting.

 

[Roadie pipeher]

Better than that, over the last month he's playing as well as Bron. 30/8/7 on 56/55/84 shooting.

legit mvp numbers right there. Hope his team wins more games.

 

[Eternal Tecate]

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. CP3
4. Harden

come at me

 

[DoubleJ13]

Exactly kept Harden and traded Westbrook for a real PG. They are regretting it though.

How are they regretting it? Still setting in the top 3 in the west with a really good chance to get back to the finals. Got a expiring contract in Martin who gives the same production basically as Harden except for play making. Got some picks & Lamb to develop alongside PJ3 while still having KD, Russy, & Serge there. He was leaving either way, it would have been dumb/hurt the team more to let him walk for nothing.

Harden is better than Westbrook in every facet which even made the decision even more foolish they should of shopped Westbrook, teams wasn't scared of Westbrook last year he might dominate but his persistence would ruin the flow of games and shot his team in the foot at times, It was Harden who put fear into those teams not West and even Durant to a lessor degree, by Harden constantly breaking them down at will and getting the the basket and line with ease, teams like the Lakers and Spurs had issues had no answers, OKC simply dont have that wildcard anymore

They broke up a big 3 for no fukking reason, and they didnt even get to see their best, how dare a coach justify putting a superstar of this caliber on the bench, especially in the playoffs when he looked lost because it's hard to come off the bench and match that intensity and fire the stars plays with when it's show time. OKC was out gunned vs Miami and they keep one of their biggest guns on the bench then gets rid of him. Basically OKC fukked up, i'm not sold on their coaching, this move will forever haunt them as they will never when a chip......

Harden isn't better than Russy at every facet of the game. They didn't break up the team for no reason. Brooks isn't a great coach. Saying we were out gunned by Miami isn't why we lost in the Finals, there were a whole bunch of reasons we lost in the Finals.

nikka Harden wrote the book on how to deal with this older Laker team

And how the fukk is Harden supposed to match Dwade, Lebron, and the heat intensity waltzing off the bench expecting him to produce and make up for Durant sleep walking, harden was completely out of groove and sync with his team. If the coach had any foresight he would have put all 3 in the starting lineup so Harden could take his blows early and then weather the storm and fight back with his team,, not get thrown into of a all out war where all the pressure would be on him to be the x factor

He had been coming off the bench all year, if that is his reason for no showing the Finals than he has problems. If Harden had been starting in the Finals who would have been out bench production? Harden was gonna be the x factor anyway but he didn't do shyt in the Finals.

 

[THE K-MAN]

IBAKA HAD THEM SKATES ON!!

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Harden is better than Westbrook in every facet which even made the decision even more foolish they should of shopped Westbrook, teams wasn't scared of Westbrook last year he might dominate but his persistence would ruin the flow of games and shot his team in the foot at times, It was Harden who put fear into those teams not West and even Durant to a lessor degree, by Harden constantly breaking them down at will and getting the the basket and line with ease, teams like the Lakers and Spurs had issues had no answers, OKC simply dont have that wildcard anymore

They broke up a big 3 for no fukking reason, and they didnt even get to see their best, how dare a coach justify putting a superstar of this caliber on the bench, especially in the playoffs when he looked lost because it's hard to come off the bench and match that intensity and fire the stars plays with when it's show time. OKC was out gunned vs Miami and they keep one of their biggest guns on the bench then gets rid of him. Basically OKC fukked up, i'm not sold on their coaching, this move will forever haunt them as they will never when a chip......

Harden wanted max money. he wanted to be paid like a starter. The Thunder is small market team. if they signed Harden then they probably lose Ibaka. As far as who's better both didn't really do shyt in the finals and both are young. Westbook hasn't peaked yet and they still have Durant so what difference does it make.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Harden wanted max money. he wanted to be paid like a starter. The Thunder is small market team. if they signed Harden then they probably lose Ibaka. As far as who's better both didn't really do shyt in the finals and both are young. Westbook hasn't peaked yet and they still have Durant so what difference does it make.

That small market shyt dont mean nothin since they sell out arenas, the tickets aren't cheap, and i read somewhere they have a very favorable, lucrative tv contract.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You say the exact same thing in every Harden thread. Nobody says anything about a bad game because any reasonable person knows poor showings are inevitable. The sample size continues to grow and Harden continues to impress so idk why you wouldn't expect people to constantly speak highly of him on this forum.

I keep saying the same thing, cause folk always keep running in here saying a numerous amount of dumb things:

OKC should've paid Harden what he wanted
OKC should've let Ibaka go instead
OKC should've kept Harden instead of Westbrook
OKC fukked up by making this trade

I expect it yes, but these nikkas only post when the sun is out and I expect most don't even watch the games and only look at the box scores and come up in here. He's played just over half a season - ALL these annos of this situation are inconclusive.

On the flip side you seem incapable of being objective about him and what he's doing. There's always an excuse: lucky calls, he still has flaws, etc. Bro virtually every ball player has "flaws". It's part of what makes styles, teams, and determines the overall flow and game of basketball in general.

Show me where I've been incapable of being objective about him.

every player has flaws? it's what determines the makeup of teams? it's what determines the flow of the game?

He does get fortunate calls and as I've previously stated - I don't hold that against him (plus he still flops, but that's on the officials/NBA not him). It took him less than half a season to enter that 'superstar-call territory'; whereas Rose still isn't there after 3+ seasons. shyt it's probably the fastest progression I've seen in a minute and has hid a lot of his growing pains.

So what if he doesn't shoot many mid range jumpers. If he's dominant on the perimeter and driving why would it be better for him to take what actually amounts to a lower percentage shot. Also lets not confuse his lack of mid range attempts with a lack of mid range shot. As you saw last night at the end of the game (I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt although I'm positive you don't watch the Rockets much) he can cook boys in the mid range just fine.

Once again, you're failing to grasp what I'm trying to say. Once teams shut down those two-avenues, he's ineffective (I never expected him to develop a mid-range overnight). He still doesn't have a mid-range shot, stop trying to spin it. How are you positive I don't watch the Rockets much? What did I say that led you to that conclusion?

Really you're gonna use the end of last night's game to prove he can cook boys in the mid-range just fine? Let's have a look at all his shots -

There ain't no cookin from mid-range there, all I see is 3 point shots and shots in the paint and ONE mid-range shot. I posted this not so long ago:

Outside the rim he's shooting 33% on the floor - he's actually been fluctuating between the high 20's and low 30's all season (still garbage from midrange).

My opinion hasn't changed on him - I had him scoring in the mid-20's at the start of the season. I've only been surprised by the amount of 'superstar' calls he gets when he's only halfway into his first season as a starter.

He's at 35% at the moment - in fact he shoots the 3ball better than every grouped-area on the court (besides at the rim). He CLEARLY hasn't been cookin from the mid-range this season. And you say I'm incapable of being objective?

And our pace covers up his flaws? Einstein the pace is more so for the rest of the players that make up the youngest team in the league and according to Morey (who I'm sure has stats on this) is one of the least experienced teams in league history. I suppose if you consider getting to the line so much pure luck then I can see how you could come up with some ridiculous shyt like he struggles in the halfcourt. Harden has no trouble creating for himself and others. It's "the others" that benefit most from the fast pace style. Btw it's funny how McHale is getting credit when before this year he has always been considered a terrible coach/personnel evaluator.

Unless you're talking about defense... can't defend that.

If you had seen, I already attributed their pace to their youth (you don't need to be telling me about all that, I'm already one step ahead):

They did, but mchale has basically got this team overachieving to the max. they play faster than every team and their high usage rate is built on the purpose of outrunning teams with their youth. a lot of there flaws have been covered up with their pace. harden's too.

When did I say him getting to the line was 'pure luck'? You just making shyt up now.



He does struggle in the half-court, especially when teams slow shyt down. More his scoring than his playmaking. They ALL benefit from the pace and the high usage/possession rate. It inflates all their stats. Well considering there's only a 2% difference between this season and last season's win-records, really not much has changed. It's just folks' perceptions have changed due to their limited roster on paper and that they're putting up a lot of points, which he does deserve praise for.

 

[kbtwofour]

Exactly kept Harden and traded Westbrook for a real PG. They are regretting it though.

Don't make me pull up my old post were I said they should've kept Harden, traded Ibaka, and traded Westbrook.

If I was the Thunder I would've kept Harden, sign Ibaka to a new deal, and traded Westbrook for Rondo. I would've given them 1-2 seasons to try to win a ring and then trade Ibaka if the team did not win a ring.

I always said someone like Rondo is a better compliment to Durant than Westbrook.