Handcuffed inmate beaten to death. What purpose we want prison to serve?

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So I'm getting from most people, just put them in prison and allow them to still be predators?
 

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The problem is you think law enforcement cares whether a black did something violent or didn’t. Black people are beaten and killed regardless of their track records.

It didn’t matter what his black man did prior to what happened in that room, they were going to beat and kill him whether he was Mandela or Tookie Williams.

You are basically saying if inmates talk back and act out that they deserve to die or be beaten by armed officers of the law. Which is bullshyt.

Corrections officers, by and large, are some of the least educated people in the workforce. They are often from poor backgrounds and lack social and problem solving skills.

This whole “well all he had to do was shut his mouth and be respectful” as if respect is an objective thing is stupid. “Disrespectful” to a stupid poor person who chooses to spend his day working in a prison is different than someone who is educated working in a more meaningful position.

You trying to excuse this as some type of karmic justice is no different than George Floyd being lynched and white people saying “well he was a drug addict”. Lynching a handcuffed black man when you are being paid by the state is wrong. Period.

White inmates get fukked up more than black inmates oft times.

If a inmates is respectful and just does his time...he has no problem with officers brutalizing him.

Yes many COs are uneducated, but they are not just picking inmates like "hey you come over here so we can beat you to death". If you're getting the beats put on you by a CO you asked for it. And I've been on both sides. I've been an inmate and I've worked in prisons. These inmates make prison HELL for other inmates. They're still doing what got them sent there!!!

And no this was not vigilante justice for his street charge. This was retaliation for something he did while there.
 

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Do you think the white officers in this case should be convicted of murder?

With the current laws and climate most likely they will be.

I need information on what led up to the killing to state whether I personally want them convicted of murder. To determine if it's murder, manslaughter, negligence, etc.
 

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What about this guy, sex assault of child younger than 12. You marching for him?



Or how about this one? An infant.

 

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What do you want prison life to be like for the man that stabbed your pregnant sister or daughter 14 times?

It's why I ask the question, what purpose do we want prison to serve?

This is an utterly retarded way of looking at things.

Punishment should not be based on your personal desires for vengeance. Someone stole my car once: I wanted him hung, drawn and quartered but we live in a civilized society so thankfully my wishes were not taken into consideration.

The purpose of prison should be

1. To protect the public from violent criminals
2. To rehabilitate criminals and prepare them for release into society if they take certain actions
3. To serve as a deterrent to future would be criminals

Abusive, cruel and inhuman treatment of inmates negates rehabilitation, and offers zero deterrent beyond the denial of liberty.

It's real simple to look at other countries and see how they handle criminals. They manage lower reconviction rates than we do, and they manage that without raping inmates or beating them to death or fulfilling sick wishes of wronged victims.

Lock inmates up, but ensure they are treated with dignity and respect. They are human too.
 

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What about this guy, sex assault of child younger than 12. You marching for him?



Or how about this one? An infant.


Even more retardation.

They are charged with horrific crimes. If convicted they probably should not see the light of day again. What does that have to do with the state being given a green light to torture them or subject them to inhuman treatment while serving life sentences? How do you trust a state who is given the permission to fukk up some citizens, to behave well towards other citizens?

You are a man. Stop drinking estrogen and think logically for a second.
 

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Saudi Arabia treats criminals horrifically. Guess what? They treat their citizens like shyt too.

Iran treats criminals horrifically. Guess what? They treat their citizens like shyt too.

There's a pattern here. Treating criminals with respect doesn't mean you can't send them away for life. The deprivation of liberty is a horrible curse already.
 

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This is an utterly retarded way of looking at things.

Punishment should not be based on your personal desires for vengeance. Someone stole my car once: I wanted him hung, drawn and quartered but we live in a civilized society so thankfully my wishes were not taken into consideration.

The purpose of prison should be

1. To protect the public from violent criminals
2. To rehabilitate criminals and prepare them for release into society if they take certain actions
3. To serve as a deterrent to future would be criminals

Abusive, cruel and inhuman treatment of inmates negates rehabilitation, and offers zero deterrent beyond the denial of liberty.

It's real simple to look at other countries and see how they handle criminals. They manage lower reconviction rates than we do, and they manage that without raping inmates or beating them to death or fulfilling sick wishes of wronged victims.

Lock inmates up, but ensure they are treated with dignity and respect. They are human too.

Ok, securing the public is achieved. Now how do we rehabilitate them? And what about prison serves as a deterrent? Has it been working?

How do you rehabilitate someone who was robbing and shooting people on the street. He gets to prison and he's robbing and stabbing other inmates. Other inmates who may only have 2 years for stealing. He's robbing and trying to take their ass. He's throwing shyt on officers who try and punish him. He's stabbing officers who try and instruct him.

Because prison is ultra masculine and no one wants to tell, he may get a year or two added on. But he's still going be released. When he's released...he hasn't changed. He comes home talking about he was the man in prison. How is this a deterrent for other people's.? If you're vicious enough, prison is fine for you.

What's your answer for this?
 
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