Hakeem speaks out against NBA "superteams"

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:ohhh:so a HOFer is incapable of having an off year gotcha. Because Drexler played good in the playoffs that means Rockets 95 team = Superteam

20 points 5 dishes 7 boards is off now? Wow. How many shooting guards were better than that in 95? Not many I bet. And yes that is a super team because it had 2 great HOF Clutch players that could takeover a game. Championship teams are built for playoff runs, not the regular season. That's when you need the clutch factor the most is in the playoffs and Clyde made shyt a lot easier for Hakeem during that run like very few could, no question about it
 

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I Cant Believe You're Saying Drexler, Olajuwon, And Barkley Cant Be Considered A Super Team, You're Really Saying That JUST To Avoid Hakeem Looking Like A Hypocrite :laugh:

Yeah You're Right, They Were A Regular Run Of The Mill Ass Team That Added 2 Decent Guys lol


they were 34-36 with an assortment of injuries, they weren't super by not stretch of the imagination.

If they were 23-25 you would have a point
 

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they were 34-36 with an assortment of injuries, they weren't super by not stretch of the imagination.

If they were 23-25 you would have a point

What If Those 34-36 Year Olds Put Up Better Stats Then Most 23-25 Year Olds And Were The Faces Of Their Respected Franchises

Would I Be Any Closer To Having A Point?
 

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20 points 5 dishes 7 boards is off now? Wow. How many shooting guards were better than that in 95? Not many I bet. And yes that is a super team because it had 2 great HOF Clutch players that could takeover a game. Championship teams are built for playoff runs, not the regular season. That's when you need the clutch factor the most is in the playoffs and Clyde made shyt a lot easier for Hakeem during that run like very few could, no question about it

:beli:so Drexler is a clutch player now. When he lost 2 years in a row in the finals, he was called a choke artist. And don't let those numbers fool you because he had games were he scored 4,7,6 pts in playoff games. Those numbers are just inflated because he did go off in like 3 games but he certainly wasn't a huge difference maker


And with that logic, I guess the Utah Jazz had a Super Team for almost a whole decade :rudy:
 

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:beli:so Drexler is a clutch player now. When he lost 2 years in a row in the finals, he was called a choke artist. And don't let those numbers fool you because he had games were he scored 4,7,6 pts in playoff games. Those numbers are just inflated because he did go off in like 3 games but he certainly wasn't a huge difference maker


And with that logic, I guess the Utah Jazz had a Super Team for almost a whole decade :rudy:

That's a lie. He was a huge difference maker for that Rockets squad.
 

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What If Those 34-36 Year Olds Put Up Better Stats Then Most 23-25 Year Olds And Were The Faces Of Their Respected Franchises

Would I Be Any Closer To Having A Point?

To me no, but others maybe.

Just because they put up better stats then there younger peers does not mean they were elite in comparison to how they were in their actual primes.

For example, i don't measure 1997 Akeem to Luc Longley in 1997, i measure him against himself in 1994.
 

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Great insight Bilz, another segue to throw mud on Kobe. I bet you also feel Kobe's back to back championship team was stacked too huh? The Big 3 of Kobe, Pau and Fish.

Kobe's "Superteam" came via trades, not players leaving to join. Nash, Dwight and Pau didn't all say "hey let's leave our teams and go to LA and play with Kobe." So he can embrace the Superteam method.

Fish was :trash:, their big 3 was Kobe, Pau, and Odom but I wouldn't really call it a superteam. They did, however, have one of the top perimeter players to go long with one of the top front lines.

And what the fukk difference does it make if superteams happen organically or by force? LeBron was traded to Miami and Bosh would have been traded too if it was needed to fit into the cap. Nash, Bosh, Dwight, and LeBron were all free agents who were leaving their teams. If the Lakers had enough cap room to sign guys outright, Dwight and Nash would have signed there without trades. The players that sit around criticizing those decisions would have done the exact same thing in a similar situation.
 

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Right...The year before Drexler they was a number 2 seed





The year with Drexler they was a number 6 seed

Not all the same, the rockets before making that trade were not going to win the title with that roster as it were currently.

They honestly would've lost to Utah in round 1 if they didn't have clyde.

In a do or die game 4 down 2-1 in the series, hakeem and clyde became one of the only sets of teammates ever to score 40 a piece in a playoff game

Utah Jazz at Houston Rockets Box Score, May 5, 1995 | Basketball-Reference.com

In a do or die game 5 on the road, they each hit 30 and no one else scored in double digits
Houston Rockets at Utah Jazz Box Score, May 7, 1995 | Basketball-Reference.com

otis thorpe or mad max isn't getting houston over that hump
 

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Right...The year before Drexler they was a number 2 seed





The year with Drexler they was a number 6 seed

The year before is the year before.

That season, they came in as the champs and weren't as good until Clyde helped them during the playoffs....the LAST #6 seed to win it all.
 

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Fish was :trash:, their big 3 was Kobe, Pau, and Odom but I wouldn't really call it a superteam. They did, however, have one of the top perimeter players to go long with one of the top front lines.

And what the fukk difference does it make if superteams happen organically or by force? LeBron was traded to Miami and Bosh would have been traded too if it was needed to fit into the cap. Nash, Bosh, Dwight, and LeBron were all free agents who were leaving their teams. If the Lakers had enough cap room to sign guys outright, Dwight and Nash would have signed there without trades. The players that sit around criticizing those decisions would have done the exact same thing in a similar situation.

The lakers had by far and away the best front court in the NBA those 2 years with Odom, Bynum, and Gasol. Also had the 2nd best SG in the nba at that time along with the GOAT coach. They were absolutely a super team in comparison to what the rest of the NBA had to offer.
 
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:beli:so Drexler is a clutch player now. When he lost 2 years in a row in the finals, he was called a choke artist. And don't let those numbers fool you because he had games were he scored 4,7,6 pts in playoff games. Those numbers are just inflated because he did go off in like 3 games but he certainly wasn't a huge difference maker


And with that logic, I guess the Utah Jazz had a Super Team for almost a whole decade :rudy:

What does it take? Great players show up and he did, that's why management brought him there. fukk what he was called, Aldelman was never great on the big stage and that team was freaking stacked. Oh, and don't get it twisted, Dream has 0 rings if Mike does not retire. Again, teams are built for playoff runs, fukk regular season records. Did the Miami Heat have the best record in the NBA this year? They're a super team right?

Plenty of NBA Champs didn't have the best regular season record. Clyde was brought their to help close on the big stage, and he did just that.
 

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While we are at it,

Pistons 04= Superteam :troll:

Spurs 99 & 03 (D.Robinson and Duncan) =Superteam :troll:
 

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:beli:so Drexler is a clutch player now. When he lost 2 years in a row in the finals, he was called a choke artist. And don't let those numbers fool you because he had games were he scored 4,7,6 pts in playoff games. Those numbers are just inflated because he did go off in like 3 games but he certainly wasn't a huge difference maker


And with that logic, I guess the Utah Jazz had a Super Team for almost a whole decade :rudy:

they didn't lose 2 years in a row in the finals.

Second, in the 90 and 92 finals, the blazers were the underdogs against arguably of the 5 best teams in NBA history. The 90 pistons and 92 bulls which featured multiple HOF's of those teams and 2 HOF head coaches. Both luxuries Drexler didn't have in portland. I don't see how losing as an underdog made you a choke artist. If anything you can call them that in 91 after losing to the lakers in the WCF's. That's it.
 
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