Haile Selassie Racist?

[Elle Driver]

so they dont look down on west africans heavily?

Not anymore then West Africans saying they're not black because they don't fit an arbitrary phenotype.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

Not anymore then West Africans saying they're not black because they don't fit an arbitrary phenotype.

goes both ways but the de humanizing shyt i seen them say is nothing compared to simply saying their not black.

 

[RadaMillz]

A lot of black people in this world hate being black

 

[thatrapsfan]

Threadstarter is trolling. Tons of black Americans travel to West Africa. The "door of no return" attracts tons of black American tourism in Senegal and similar attractions in Ghana. In the civil rights era plenty also lived in West Africa. W.E.B Du Bois died in Ghana, Maya Angelou lived there for a significant amount of time etc.

 

[charmander]

selassie was a clown

 

[HiphopRelated]

So much wrong in the OP

 

[Peter Parker]

I dont think he would've taken time out of his schedule to go and visit the Jamaican people if he really felt like they were beneath him. He was also well aware of the Rastafari movements existence

 

[Poitier]

@MikeBrownsJob @GreatestLaker @Lord Aldon are all ugly ass negroes that got curved by some yellowbone. It's Thanksgiving, go eat a drum stick, get drunk with your fam and for one day you can forget that you are at the bottom of the totem pole for Black women.

 

[Peter Parker]

In 1948 Emperor Haile Selassie I donated 500 acres (2.0 km2) of his private land to allow members of the Rastafari movement, Ethiopian World Federation (EWF) officers and members and other settlers from Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean to go to Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shashamane

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Haille Selassie didn't like black people? Then why did he give 500 acres of land to Jamaicans and other Carribeans to repatriate back to Africa?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shashamane

In 1948 Emperor Haile Selassie I donated 500 acres (2.0 km2) of his private land to allow members of the Rastafari movement, Ethiopian World Federation (EWF) officers and members and other settlers from Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean to go to Africa. The return would be under the auspices of the EWF, founded in 1937 by the Emperor's special emissary to Black America, Melaku E. Bayen.[2] The official letter confirming the "land grant" of 1948 was submitted to the members and executives of the Ethiopian World Federation in 1955.

In 1961, the Jamaican government sent a delegation composed of both Rastafari and non-Rastafarian leaders to Ethiopia to discuss the matter of repatriation, among other issues, with the Emperor. He reportedly told the Rastafarian delegation, "Tell the Brethren to be not dismayed, I personally will give my assistance in the matter of repatriation"

On his 1966 visit to Jamaica, Haile Selassie reportedly encouraged Rastafarian leaders to repatriate to Shashemene, but stressed that there was still important work to do in liberating Jamaica.

It is said that Haile Selassie stopped his imperial motorcade when passing the Shashemene settlement once around 1968, got out, and asked "Where are my people?" Local Rastafarians stepped forth and replied "Here we are Your Majesty, here we are" and "Hail to the Lord’s Anointed Great David’s Greater Son here in this time appointed his reign on earth begun", bowing profusely. He asked them if there was anything they wanted, and they replied, "We want to stay here your Majesty". The Emperor then responded "Really, well why not, why not, let them stay".[8] In the words of one Rastafarian resident on the land for nearly 40 years "says he's not going anywhere." [7]

On 23 August 1969, Rastafarian settlers petitioned Emperor Haile Selassie I for Ethiopian citizenship and other benefits. A few weeks later, the Jamaican Daily Gleaner reported that EWF members in Jamaica left for Ethiopia on September 5 to develop the settlement.

 

[posterchild336]

I am Jamaican and can tell u... It's garbage... Much like many religious beliefs are.... But as long as a person can use religious beliefs to make themself a better person... I can't complain

But don't get it confused .. It's a Rastafarian belief not a Jamaican.. The average person in Jamaica does. Believe this... They are Christian then catholic ... Rastafarians are frowned upon and looked down on in my country.. It's a small percentage

 

[Chris.B]

A lot of black people in this world hate being black

 

[Scientific Playa]

Haile Selassie
King of Kings, Conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah
Joseph Cardillo <---------




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie_I

2.5 Conflict with Italy

• 2.5.1 Mobilization
• 2.5.2 Progress of the war
• 2.5.3 Exile debate
• 2.5.4 Collective security and the League of Nations, 1936

Conflict with Italy
See also: Abyssinia Crisis and Second Italo-Abyssinian War
Ethiopia became the target of renewed Italian imperialist designs in the 1930s. Benito Mussolini's Fascist regime was keen to avenge the military defeats Italy had suffered to Ethiopia in the First Italo-Abyssinian War, and to efface the failed attempt by "liberal" Italy to conquer the country, as epitomised by the defeat at Adowa.[64][65][66] A conquest of Ethiopia could also empower the cause of fascism and embolden its rhetoric of empire.[66] Ethiopia would also provide a bridge between Italy's Eritrean and Italian Somaliland possessions. Ethiopia's position in the League of Nations did not dissuade the Italians from invading in 1935; the "collective security" envisaged by the League proved useless, and a scandal erupted when the Hoare-Laval Pact revealed that Ethiopia's League allies were scheming to appease Italy.[67]

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I am Jamaican and can tell u... It's garbage... Much like many religious beliefs are.... But as long as a person can use religious beliefs to make themself a better person... I can't complain

But don't get it confused .. It's a Rastafarian belief not a Jamaican.. The average person in Jamaica does. Believe this... They are Christian then catholic ... Rastafarians are frowned upon and looked down on in my country.. It's a small percentage

Breh, I'm Jamaican too but the last time I went back to yard was 06, but when did Rasta's get looked down on in Jamaica? I ain't never heard of no Jamaican's trying to shyt on a rasta.

 

[WaveGang]

HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE LEGACY OF THE GREAT MOSIAH GARVEY
@Lord Aldon @MikeBrownsJob @Crakface @theworldismine13


Heres what the prophet Marcus Mosiah Garvey thought of selassie in hiw own words

Editorial "THE FAILURE OF HAILE SELASSIE AS EMPEROR" by Marcus Garvey in the Black Man - London, March/April 1937

Read more: http://www.jamaicans.com/culture/rasta/MarcusGarveyeditorial.shtml#ixzz2lxn1643Y

THE FAILURE OF HAILE SELASSIE AS EMPEROR

When the facts of history are written Haile Selassie of Abyssinia will go down as a great coward who ran away from his country to save his skin and left the millions of his countrymen to struggle through a terrible war that he brought upon them because of his political ignorance and his racial disloyalty.

It is a pity that a man of the limited intellectual calibre and weak political character like Haile Selassie became Emperor of Abyssinia at so crucial a time in the political history of the world. Unfortunately, Abyssinia lost the controlling influence of a political personality of patriotic racial character like the late Menelik, whose loyalty to his race and devotion to his country excelled all his other qualities, to the extent that he was able to use that very strength to continuously safeguard the interests of the Ethiopian Empire. What he did so well to preserve, a cringing, white slave hero worshipper, visionless and disloyal to his country, threw away. This is the impression the serious minded political student forms of the conduct of the ex-Emperor of Abyssinia.

EVERY NEGRO ASHAMED

Every Negro who is proud of his race must be ashamed of the way in which Haile Selassie surrendered himself to the white wolves of Europe. These statements may be considered very severe, and in fact, they are. We could have been otherwise apologetic and sympathetic, but that would have been only if we were dealing with a Coptic Priest or a Religious Monk and not a[n] Emperor who held and presided over the political trust of twelve million people of his own country, and the political destiny of the entire Negro race. This little misguided Emperor could not realise that he held in his hands the political trust of the hundreds of millions of Negroes of the world, men and women, who were looking up toward the firm establishment of political sovereignty, and that Ethiopia, like Liberia and Haiti were to them prizes of glory to be perpetuated and strengthened in the maintenance of the dignity of that black race that other men have claimed to be incompetent, inferior and unworthy, which every black man must disprove.

LOOKED WITH HOPE

When the war started in Abyssinia all Negro nationalists looked with hope to Haile Selassie. They spoke for him, they prayed for him, they sung for him, they did everything to hold up his hands, as Aaron did for Moses; but whilst the Negro peoples of the world were praying for the success of Abyssinia this little Emperor was undermining the fabric of his own kingdom by playing the fool with white men, having them advising him[,] having them telling him what to do, how to surrender, how to call off the successful thrusts of his Rases against the Italian invaders. Yes, they were telling him how to prepare his flight, and like an imbecilic child he followed every advice and then ultimately ran away from his country to England, leaving his people to be massacred by the Italians, and leaving the serious white world to laugh at every Negro and repeat the charge and snare - "he is incompetent," "we told you so." Indeed Haile Selassie has proved the incompetence of the Negro for political authority, but thank God there are Negroes who realise that Haile Selassie did not represent the truest qualities of the Negro race. How could he, when he wanted to play white? how could he, when he surrounded himself with white influence? how could he, when in a modem world, and in a progressive civilization, he preferred a slave State of black men than a free democratic country where the black citizens could rise to the same opportunities as white citizens in their democracies?

TELL THE TRUTH

The truth must be told so that the white world will realise that it was not the pride of the Negro that surrendered in Abyssinia. It was the disloyalty of a single man who was too silly to take pride in his race, who played such a game as to disgrace the political integrity of a noble people. The Negroes of Abyssinia and of the world are satisfied however that Abyssinia was not conquered by Italy and the European forces of Mussolini. Abyssinia was only conquered by the black levies of Italy. The Askaris have really been the victors in Abyssinia. [Rodolfo] Graziani only marched into Addis Ababa after he had made sure of the advanced guard of the Askaris. Every battle that the Italians won in Abyssinia resulted from the advanced charge of the Askaris. It was black men fighting black men, and this was made possible in Abyssinia because the regime of Haile Selassie had given a bad taste to the mouth, not only of the blacks of Abyssinia but of those of the surrounding territories. They felt that they had a cause against the Amharic white loving Emperor who liked to chain and flog black men, and whose brutality to them gave Mussolini the cause to fool the world that he was bestowing a blessing upon the people of Abyssinia by freeing them.

NO SLAVES

It was a piece of impertinence to suggest that black men should be held as slaves. We must admit that we glorified Haile Selassie when the war started, fought his battles to win international support, but we ever felt deep down in our hearts that he was a slave master. We had hoped that if Abyssinia had won that we would have forced the Government of Abyssinia to free the black whom they held as slaves. We would have preferred this than seeing the country taken by Mussolini or any European power; but now that the country is temporarily lost and the Emperor has cowardly exiled himself, the truth must be told.

WHAT RIGHT HAS HE?

The future freedom of Abyssinia must be built upon the highest principles of democracy. That is why it is preferable for the Abyssinian Negroes and the Negroes of the world to work for the restoration and freedom of the country without the assistance of Haile Selassie, because at best he is but a slave master. The Negroes of the Western World whose forefathers suffered for three hundred years under the terrors of slavery ought to be able to appreciate what freedom means. Surely they cannot feel justified in supporting any system that would hold their brothers in slavery in another country whilst they are enjoying the benefits of freedom elsewhere. The Africans who are free can also appreciate the position of slaves in Abyssinia. What right has the Emperor to keep slaves when all the democratic sections of the world were free, when men had the right to live, to develop, to expand, to enjoy all the benefits of human liberty[?]
The Emperor who has been exiled in Europe must have seen the civilization of Europe. In England where he lives he sees that men are not flogged and chained and kicked because of their colour or because of their condition, but where true human liberty guarantees to every man the happiest pursuit he can bring to himself. It has been reported that he is leaving England for Syria, where a large number of Abyssinian refugees are living. There is an interpretation that the decision to leave England and to live among "his people?" in Syria is to perpetuate his divine majesty in the presence of that king worship that he doesn't get in England, where men look at others as equals and not as masters by divine right. In truth, the Emperor is out of place in democratic England. He wants to be once more in the environment of the feudal Monarch who looks down upon his slaves and serfs with contempt. Except he changes the attitude of thinking himself better than the Negro who constitutes the larger number of Ethiopia and profit by the experience he has gained, he should not be a fit person to be in authority in the very country in which he was born. After all, Haile Selassie is just an ordinary man like any other human being. What right has he to hold men as slaves? It is only the misfortune of the slaves that causes him to be a slave master. Negroes who have the dignity of their race at heart resent the impertinence of anyone holding the blacks as slaves. Haile Selassie ought to realise this and abolish his foolish dream of being an Emperor of slaves and serfs and try to be an Emperor of noble men, and for him to be that he must himself be the noblest of them all. He hasn't proved his nobility in the war between Italy and Abyssinia. Ras Desta proved to be the Lord, the Nobleman of Ethiopia whilst Halle Selassie proved a cringing coward!

http://www.jamaicans.com/culture/rasta/MarcusGarveyeditorial.shtml