Guns, Germs, and Steel

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u keep asking what the debate was about... I just let u know.

Word on the COLI HL streets is that they didn't have ships................. and didn't even communicate about technology with language.

I would say Africans were people who lived in Africa. idk, unless a native to Portugal in the 1400's could also be considered African.

africa is a continent...so...yeah gotta be more specific.

and define "ships"

They might not have had the infrastructure to devise some shyt like the europeans had, but theres no telling what they may have had.
 

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The examples that they use for their theory go back to the 15th century. I think their theory is a piece of the puzzle rather than a comprehensive explanation. But I don't think Diamond's theory is comprehensive either. How can it be? Global development is and has been extremely complicated.
didn't say it was a flawless argument, but diamond is trying to get people to consider resource allocation as opposed to events in human history.
 

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really? they would stand in a straight line like bowling pins and shoot and wait to reload, the zulu (dont use wiki or that dumbass book as a resource,use a scholor) destroyed them dirty ass cacs till those pork skinned motherfukkers came back with CHINA'S invention the gattling gun

No.

They didn't.

Theres no evidence of this either.

Guns have been the great equalizer on this plant. After cannon. After Arrows. After Swords. After sticks and stones.
 

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500 years ago you were being conquered by arabs, that is why your religion is islam and your written language is arabic
:what:What are you on about? Arabs never conquered Somalis and our written language is Somali. Islam reached East Africa before it reached most of the Arab world.
Now where's your proof for that ridiculous statement of yours?
 

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africa is a continent...so...yeah gotta be more specific.

and define "ships"

They might not have had the infrastructure to devise some shyt like the europeans had, but theres no telling what they may have had.
:rudy:

I've not only learned from HL that they were the most assbackward bunch due to non-interest, but also that they lost all the technologies they created conveniently during the time of conquest... that they didn't have language... and They Definitely Do Not have any form of these ships u speak of.

From Northern to Southern Africa - from what I understand is what was colonized and taken over due to germs guns and steel.
 

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:what:What are you on about? Arabs never conquered Somalis and our written language is Somali. Islam reached East Africa before it reached most of the Arab world.
Now where's your proof for that ridiculous statement of yours?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadaad_writing

Wadaad writing, also known as wadaad Arabic, is the traditional Somali adaptation of written Arabic,[1] as well as the Arabic script as historically used to transcribe the Somali language.[2]
 

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I've not only learned from HL that they were the most assbackward bunch due to non-interest, but also that they lost all the technologies they created conveniently during the time of conquest... that they didn't have language... and They Definitely Do Not have any form of these ships u speak of.

From Northern to Southern Africa - from what I understand is what was colonized and taken over due to germs guns and steel.

GGS doesn't say that.

It asserts that africa was limited because of its relative isolation and north-to-south axis which prevents cultures from intermingling and sharing ideas to a greater extent.

thats as vague as I can be about the book.

And yes. Africa wasn't as technologically advanced in terms of "toys" of innovation. They weren't stupid though...just not getting shyt popping like Europe was at the time. Thats no fault of their own, merely a result of geography and selective pressures.
 

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yes they did, look up Battle of Isandlwana

look up every other battle since then...and i'm not going defend the italians and ethiopians (since guns were used on both sides). :usure:

OK. Some spear chuckers held off a band of sailors from europe...what happened the day after that though? :mjpls:

Winning a battle ain't mean you won that war...:ufdup:
 

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what would this prove?



and the slave trade began in the 16th century, so by the time the the europeans sailed to west africa any technological advantage was gone



and they were able to do it because of better technology



its not bullshyt its the truth, lol @ guns not being a factor, wow

psuedo interllect at its finest

europeans sailing to west africa in the 16th century

guns being used during the first occupations

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I dont debate those who are not of my interllectual level...

I teach
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GGS doesn't say that.

It asserts that africa was limited because of its relative isolation and north-to-south axis which prevents cultures from intermingling and sharing ideas to a greater extent.

thats as vague as I can be about the book.

And yes. Africa wasn't as technologically advanced in terms of "toys" of innovation. They weren't stupid though...just not getting shyt popping like Europe was at the time. Thats no fault of their own, merely a result of geography and selective pressures.

:ehh:

well then.
 
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