"Guns are glorified in hip-hop culture". Bob Costas

[Lucky_Lefty]

What's the end game with his point?

That's what I'm saying. What was the question Stewart asked to warrant that response? If he said that just to makes a quasi distinction between black an white players then he deserves more scorn for this than his little halftime rant. Dan Patrick "repeated" (allegedly) something that Dungy said and there was no blowback for either of them. If we are gonna be 100, lets not pretend that they care about the gun violence in black & brown neighborhoods. But let that same gunplay come to the suburbs then they want to look at rap music as the reason behind it

 

[cornercommission2k12]

it seems way more glorified because of the nature of rap music also. when you have verses/lyrics everything is going to be expressed with much more detail than in a country music song would where there are way less less lyrics overall.

part of it is just the nature of the genre and the way its structured mechanically speaking

no

it seems more glorified, because some homsexuals across seas who own billion dollar music companies find it more profitable to continue to open budgets up and promote all the artist who make violence, ignorance, sex and other the basis of they music, although there are thousands of artist who have music that have uplifting content in it. but those artist get ignored, get called conscious backpackers and thrown in the underground, now internet bushes.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Full quote if not posted already

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameo...tewart-jovan-belcher-gun-control-nfl/1873653/

"We have to acknowledge that guns are glorified in hip hop culture," Costas said. "Some 70% of players in the NFL are African-American, not all of them are influenced by that part of the culture, but some are. Many of these kids come out of environments where it's commonplace for a 14 or 15-year-old to be packing."

"It's a legitimate question to ask can you expect hundreds if not thousands of football players to do something by which it's nature is brutal, belligerent, and violent," Costas began. "Isn't it reasonable to expect that some of them won't be able to contain that to the field?"

Still don't see his point. It's not pro players shooting up malls, campuses, etc so I don't see his point of bringing up hip hop.

 

[NYC Rebel]

That's what I'm saying. What was the question Stewart asked to warrant that response? If he said that just to makes a quasi distinction between black an white players then he deserves more scorn for this than his little halftime rant. Dan Patrick "repeated" (allegedly) something that Dungy said and there was no blowback for either of them. If we are gonna be 100, lets not pretend that they care about the gun violence in black & brown neighborhoods. But let that same gunplay come to the suburbs then they want to look at rap music as the reason behind it

It's crazy how these white dudes fiend to have some black person validate their tomfoolery.

I simply do not get how bringing up his shytty point tied to his greater point outside of segregating black players from white. It made zero sense.

 

[Danie84]

But, the movie industry is a gazillion years older than Hip-Hop and they've been glamourizing guns since the inception of Hollywood.

Little Ceasar
The Public Enemy
Scarface

And, all those countless chain gang and prison filims from the 1930s.

Costas just want a rapper to spit his name.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

it seems way more glorified because of the nature of rap music also. when you have verses/lyrics everything is going to be expressed with much more detail than in a country music song would where there are way less less lyrics overall.

part of it is just the nature of the genre and the way its structured mechanically speaking

I always thought when the Originoo Gun Clappaz came on Rap City and said gun clappin is a positive thing that means doing what you gotta do, and a teacher teaching kids is gun clapping was the most bullshyt statement in defense of violent hip-hop lyrics. If this doesn't top that, it's the closest one.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

I always thought when the Originoo Gun Clappaz came on Rap City and said gun clappin is a positive thing that means doing what you gotta do, and a teacher teaching kids is gun clapping was the most bullshyt statement in defense of violent hip-hop lyrics. If this doesn't top that, it's the closest one.

culturally guns are everywhere though. rap glorifies guns but the act of rapping would make anything seem excessive its just a fact

 

[mastermind]

he isnt wrong, but why isolate the hip hop community?


John Wayne and Rock Hudson were blasting guns in film well before Schoolly D made PSK.


here is the interview

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

 

[Easy-E]

I was disappointed John didn't call him out, on that

I haven't watched the extended version, yet

he isnt wrong, but why isolate the hip hop community?


John Wayne and Rock Hudson were blasting guns in film well before Schoolly D made PSK.

I never like blaming pop culture, but; if you do, then don't try to scapegoat one form

 

[mastermind]

I never like blaming pop culture, but; if you do, then don't try to scapegoat one form

my statement wasnt meant to blame pop culture, but why blame just hip hop on its own? The gun culture existed well before PSK came out.


And listening to his statement, this idiot was specifically targeting hip hop only. I am assuming because its black players in the NFL and NBA, but its still bullshyt.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Outside of the Drill Music, where else is gunplay highlighted in rap now?
Now after that, what about all those action movies/crime shows/video games?
As far as black players in the NFL, you're hearing too many of them carry guns or get in gun violence cases.

 

[Walt]

I always thought when the Originoo Gun Clappaz came on Rap City and said gun clappin is a positive thing that means doing what you gotta do, and a teacher teaching kids is gun clapping was the most bullshyt statement in defense of violent hip-hop lyrics. If this doesn't top that, it's the closest one.

I missed that, sounds like it was a classic moment.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Never Ignorant Getting Gunclapping Accomplished?

 

[Crakface]

Whats his point? If guns werent glorified, then what no one would get shot.

Stunning these are grown men thoughts.

 

[BrothaZay]

because those :cac: that were shooting up schools were listening to hip hop

Alot of white people listen to hip hop

 

[Walt]

Outside of the Drill Music, where else is gunplay highlighted in rap now?
Now after that, what about all those action movies/crime shows/video games?
As far as black players in the NFL, you're hearing too many of them carry guns or get in gun violence cases.

:jackeenikkaplease:

Everywhere. shyt, the entire renaissance of battle rap culture is steeped in frail looking dudes creating newer, slicker, more complicated metaphors and rhyme schemes to explain the guns they have and how they can kill or ob you with them.

I think anyone who blames hip hop from societies ills is either lazy, bigoted, stupid, or confusing with a symptom of and American problem with the problem itself. Bt I ain't about to pretend hip hop isn't embarrassing when it comes to gun talk just because Tribe Called Quest and Lupe Fiasco have made "music with a real message."

Black life in America has long been an extreme microcosm of American culture in general. You can't be a warring ass consumerist country that continually sells sex and violence and expect those who have the least access to the "dream" of American normalcy to not mimic all that shyt in extreme, warped ways.

But listening to hip hop can make the brain feel like mush the same way watching movie trailers can. The majority of it is base, mindless, aimless to me. I enjoy mainstream hip hop the same way I enjoy certain movies that are so bad they become their own transcendent entity, an enjoyable sort of bad, emblematic of our society's absurdity in a way I can laugh at.