"Guns are glorified in hip-hop culture". Bob Costas

[No_bammer_weed]

This is true. However the glorification is different.

Hip-Hop is the one genre of artistic expression where if you talk about it, you're supposed to REALL be about it.

No one criticizes Clint Eastwood when he really doesn't live that life.

But Rick Ross was a Corrections officer and people crucify him because he's not really pushing keys and shooting nines?

You ask little kids in the hood if Will Smith really shoots people after watching Bad Boys... They'll probably say "nah"

You ask grown men if their favorite rapper really lives that life he spits on wax, "Of course, or I wouldn't listen to his imposter ass"

No?

B, how has rick ross been "crucified?" Hes one of the more popular artists in hip hop. And get this straight --- Ross lied. He claimed he was never a C.O, and even with all of that Ross has been given a major pass. And who are all these gangster, gun obsessed rappers that kids are emulating and in love with? Drake? Nicki? Eminem? Florida? Kanye? Jay? Wiz? Snoop? Wale? Wayne's a lil on the violent side, but look at his image --- its more of a cartoony violence than menacing. He wears fckin leggings and yellow wigs in public....so where are the gangstas?

 

[-DMP-]

True.... But the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.

-DMP

 

[The War Report]

 

[ExodusNirvana]

B, how has rick ross been "crucified?" Hes one of the more popular artists in hip hop. And get this straight --- Ross lied. He claimed he was never a C.O, and even with all of that Ross has been given a major pass. And who are all these gangster, gun obsessed rappers that kids are emulating and in love with? Drake? Nicki? Eminem? Florida? Kanye? Jay? Wiz? Snoop? Wale? Wayne's a lil on the violent side, but look at his image --- its more of a cartoony violence than menacing. He wears fckin leggings and yellow wigs in public....so where are the gangstas?

I peeped that pro-Ross bullshyt homie tried to sneak in there

nikkas gave Ross a HUGE pass on that CO shyt. If it was 94 or some shyt Ross woulda BEEN exposed and laughed out of hip hop.

 

[Magnus Warhol]

Its true. Guns drawn is facinated by the black community.

 

[Luke Cage]

guns are glorified in black culture.
using guns on innocent people is glorified in white culture.

black people shoot criminals, dogs, and rival gang members.
white people shoot co-workers, parents, and classmates.

black people kill for revenge, over drugs, or because they live in a bad neighborhood and had to kill to survive.
white people kill because they got fired from work, mom made them do choirs and they didn't want to, or they get teased at school.

 

[Savior]

This is true. However the glorification is different.

Hip-Hop is the one genre of artistic expression where if you talk about it, you're supposed to REALL be about it.

No one criticizes Clint Eastwood when he really doesn't live that life.

But Rick Ross was a Corrections officer and people crucify him because he's not really pushing keys and shooting nines?

You ask little kids in the hood if Will Smith really shoots people after watching Bad Boys... They'll probably say "nah"

You ask grown men if their favorite rapper really lives that life he spits on wax, "Of course, or I wouldn't listen to his imposter ass"

if a grown man really believes rappers (at least the big name ones) are about that life they might as well believe Will Smith out there shooting people. Ross an Jay Z out there pushing rocks still? Or that any of these niccas are busting their guns? What grown man believes that shyt

 

[The War Report]

if a grown man really believes rappers (at least the big name ones) are about that life they might as well believe Will Smith out there shooting people. Ross an Jay Z out there pushing rocks still? Or that any of these niccas are busting their guns? What grown man believes that shyt

It's not grown people but the impressionable youth.

 

[OG Talk]

"We have to acknowledge that guns are glorified in hip hop culture,"


This is a generalized statement. It lacks depth, maturity, and its treating the subject as a one dimensional one. People are sensitive to this, because this has been the treatment that black culture has been subjected to as an enforcement of racism --- reducing black people to its worst elements, as a way to define the whole.

Oh I agree.. Especially coming from someone with the look, voice and resume of ridiculousness like Bob Costas..Which is why I said if Jim Brown said the same exact thing there wouldn't be a fraction of the outrage...This thread probably wouldn't exist...Old Black men and women make this statement all the time without an agenda of racism.. I understand that Costas doesn't get that pass...The smug look and arrogance in his voice makes me want to slap the shyt out of him...



But what he said is just as true on a basic level as someone who says "We have to acknowledge that guns are glamorized in American culture"...

Spoiler

A statement that almost everyone in this thread has said

Of course there are those that say "But I don't glamorize guns personally, and my Uncles a peace loving Muslim who doesn't use guns, and my best friend is a vegan that doesn't believe in hunting" etc... etc...


Is your "generalization" that American's glamorize guns based on an anti-American sentiment? Or is it just a basic fact?

 

[Higher Tech]

because those :cac: that were shooting up schools were listening to hip hop

Alot of white people listen to hip hop

I blame hip hop all the way. This shyt makes me wanna shoot up some shyt in public.



Im so fukkin crunk right now!

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Oh I agree.. Especially coming from someone with the look, voice and resume of ridiculousness like Bob Costas..Which is why I said if Jim Brown said the same exact thing there wouldn't be a fraction of the outrage...This thread probably wouldn't exist...Old Black men and women make this statement all the time without an agenda of racism.. I understand that Costas doesn't get that pass...The smug look and arrogance in his voice makes me want to slap the shyt out of him...

I think you're veering off too far into white man burden land. To say that a black person making an equivalent statement, would be given a free pass to the point where a thread like this wouldnt have been made is factually incorrect. Black people from Bill Cosby, to Jason Whitlock, Spike Lee, and many others have been been criticized strongly here ("Koon" anyone?) and elsewhere for their anti-hip hop/black youth tones. Besides where is this "outrage" you're seeing? You make it seem as tho people are picketing Costas' office as we speak. The criticism against his statement has been measured and reasonable for the most part.

But what he said is just as true on a basic level as someone who says "We have to acknowledge that guns are glamorized in American culture"...


A statement that almost everyone in this thread has said


Of course there are those that say "But I don't glamorize guns personally, and my Uncles a peace loving Muslim who doesn't use guns, and my best friend is a vegan that doesn't believe in hunting" etc... etc...


Is your "generalization" that American's glamorize guns based on an anti-American sentiment? Or is it just a basic fact?

But here is where critical analysis plays a major role. America as a whole isnt a country that has been discriminated against, ridiculed, marginalized, and subjugated against, so there is no need to combat dismissive stereotypes in a quest for equality and humane treatment. Black culture is sensitive to demeaning stereotypes and language, because they have been weaponized and used against us as a people for centuries, so the character of the statements is different when applied to black people vs. America as a collective, especially given how irresponsible and off base Costas' statement was.

 

[King P]

I peeped that pro-Ross bullshyt homie tried to sneak in there

nikkas gave Ross a HUGE pass on that CO shyt. If it was 94 or some shyt Ross woulda BEEN exposed and laughed out of hip hop.

Eh, not so sure about that.

Pac was an actor and dancer before he became a rapper. And that didn't hurt his career one bit, now did it?

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Eh, not so sure about that.

Pac was an actor and dancer before he became a rapper. And that didn't hurt his career one bit, now did it?

True

Pac had Suge and Deathrow backing him at one point. That's gotta count for something no?

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Cats these days make up criminal pasts because they think it will help their image and record sales

 

[NYC Rebel]

Oh I agree.. Especially coming from someone with the look, voice and resume of ridiculousness like Bob Costas..Which is why I said if Jim Brown said the same exact thing there wouldn't be a fraction of the outrage...This thread probably wouldn't exist...Old Black men and women make this statement all the time without an agenda of racism.. I understand that Costas doesn't get that pass...The smug look and arrogance in his voice makes me want to slap the shyt out of him...



But what he said is just as true on a basic level as someone who says "We have to acknowledge that guns are glamorized in American culture"...

Spoiler

A statement that almost everyone in this thread has said

Of course there are those that say "But I don't glamorize guns personally, and my Uncles a peace loving Muslim who doesn't use guns, and my best friend is a vegan that doesn't believe in hunting" etc... etc...


Is your "generalization" that American's glamorize guns based on an anti-American sentiment? Or is it just a basic fact?

Jim Brown is an insightful speaker when speaking on things about the Black Commmunity. Bob Costas did nothing more but exert minimal effort in reaching for the lowest hanging fruit possible when talking about the black community. Dude is proud to be inseminated by a fat ass who probably can't see his own dikk.

Find another ol black man, like Bill Cosby.