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We producing things, with no real inherent value, just to produce them. We consume just to consume. This has averse affects on things that every human should have rights to, regardless of socio-economic status.


It's not even about producing or consuming anymore, a lot of it is essentially betting on how much things will cost or how companies will do. It's not even about products or physical things anymore, it's creating money by betting on money.
 

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We producing things, with no real inherent value, just to produce them. We consume just to consume. This has averse affects on things that every human should have rights to, regardless of socio-economic status.
:beli: According to whom?

You niqqas stay making personal judgments/opinions facts.:childplease:
 

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Whatever troll you guys are arguing with, I have on ignore, so I feel sorry for you. Other than that, I've seen a lot of great stuff in this thread.
 

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You're right nothing is fact. Let's be as evil and horrible a human being we can be because it takes an adult to monitor their morality.


If you want an objective reason why we should care about those in the lowest bracket in the socio-economic tier

http://www.nber.org/reporter/spring03/health.html
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...ife-expectancy-eligibility-age-retirement-age
I believe we should be free to be as good or bad as we want, and allow others to too. As long as we are initiating force or having force initiated on us I see no foul.

But I know freedom, liberty, and all that jazz is meaningless around here....
Crazy how negroes shyt on freedom, after losing so much for it :wow:
 

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I believe we should be free to be as good or bad as we want, and allow others to too. As long as we are initiating force or having force initiated on us I see no foul.

But I know freedom, liberty, and all that jazz is meaningless around here....
Crazy how negroes shyt on freedom, after losing so much for it :wow:



Those concepts do not exist in the real world. Someone is always exerting force and taking or giving freedom, you don't control that. It's an illusion.
 

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So you see working towards it and or preserving what freedom we have is a waste? :what:
I feel for you breh. They got you out here accepting modern day slavery.:wow:


Read Jean Baudrillard, Plato, and Jorge Lois Borges and you will have a better understanding why you're argument is meaningless.
 

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Either you're dense or you're a troll. In current day America, you don't own your own freedom, whomever you owe debt to, owns you, so I am not sure where you come up with these ill conceived and ill informed notions. You are a debt slave and you don't know it because Reagan, Rand, and Friedman have already skull fukked any common sense out of you.
 

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Either you're dense or you're a troll. In current day America, you don't own your own freedom, whomever you owe debt to, owns you, so I am not sure where you come up with these ill conceived and ill informed notions. You are a debt slave and you don't know it because Reagan, Rand, and Friedman have already skull fukked any common sense out of you.

I haven't been paying attention to the conversation but yeah we do live in a debt-based society where almost everyone in the country owes money (i.e.: mortgage, car note, student loan, business loan, credit cards). We're a society that revolves around debt and spending (buying clothes, jewelry, electronics, etc. to impress friends) when instead we should be a society about saving and investing. The fractional reserve system fabricates money out of thin air and most people don't even know about that.
 
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