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I really hope you don't go out in the real world showing your stupidity.
 

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I really hope you don't go out in the real world showing your stupidity.
Me too. :comeon:


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If we wanted to tackle the wage issue seriously we would look at why the cost of living is so high, and clearly define these vague terms thrown around so much... "poor, rich, livable" etc.
Until this is done, I cant believe liberals are serious at all.

He responds by calling me "stupid"... :dead:
Liberals i swear.
 

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You're confusing capitalism with corporatism again, as is common around here :snoop:

Capitalism leads to corporatism... Something's wrong with you man. You thinking Milton is talking about anything but economic freedom.

If you're not a liberal, what are u?
 

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Capitalism leads to corporatism... Something's wrong with you man. You thinking Milton is talking about anything but economic freedom.
No, i was referring to myself not Milton.

"Capitalism leads to corporatism" This could be true, but I haven't accepted it as an absolute yet. :lupe:
 

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"Capitalism leads to corporatism" :russ::russ::russ:

Corporatism is a subset of capitalism.

My bad, I was talking about Corporatocracy.

and I bet you that none of the neo-capitalists would favor Corporatism

No, i was referring to myself not Milton.

"Capitalism leads to corporatism" This could be true, but I haven't accepted it as an absolute yet. :lupe:

Well you have a quote by friedman in your sig and you keep repeating the word freedom so logically it will lead people to believe that you're talking about friedman\s freedom.
 

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I know you're talking about the cultural and idealogical differences but goddamn, you guys are comparing a nation of 8 million people to a nation of 315 million. :what:
 

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I know you're talking about the cultural and idealogical differences but goddamn, you guys are comparing a nation of 8 million people to a nation of 315 million. :what:

Our politicians don't even try and when people say the platitude you just type, it gives them the freedom to continue to fukk up, instead of figuring out how this works. Also, "The New Deal" seemed to work fairly well.
 

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Our politicians don't even try and when people say the platitude you just type, it gives them the freedom to continue to fukk up, instead of figuring out how this works. Also, "The New Deal" seemed to work fairly well.

I'm all for exchanging ideas but you're comparing apples to oranges. While they are both fruit they are not the same. Its like training someone one on one where you have a lot of control over the situation versus training an entire say 6th grade class where some follow, some fall behind, and some dont give a shyt. You can't apply the same logic and rules to 315 million people as you would 8 million.
 

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I'm all for exchanging ideas but you're comparing apples to oranges. While they are both fruit they are not the same. Its like training someone one on one where you have a lot of control over the situation versus training an entire say 6th grade class where some follow, some fall behind, and some dont give a shyt. You can't apply the same logic and rules to 315 million people as you would 8 million.

Did you read what I typed? When did I endorse the OP topic as designed for America? Socialism has worked and in fact is responsible for the large middleclass that America enjoys today. Our politicians have no accountability to keep it like that because people like you don't even make them try with the cop-out "scale factor" platitude.
 

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Did you read what I typed? When did I endorse the OP topic as designed for America? Socialism has worked and in fact is responsible for the large middleclass that America enjoys today. Our politicians have no accountability to keep it like that because people like you don't even make them try with the cop-out "scale factor" platitude.

Scale factor is not a cop out. What works for 5 people may not work for 25 people. Did you read what I typed? I didnt say socialism doesnt work. I said you can't have the same policies in place for a small nation as they would be for a large nation. "People like you" live in a dream world and don't understand all of the moving parts.
 

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Scale factor is not a cop out. What works for 5 people may not work for 25 people. Did you read what I typed? I didnt say socialism doesnt work. I said you can't have the same policies in place for a small nation as they would be for a large nation. "People like you" live in a dream world and don't understand all of the moving parts.

No one argued that point IN THE FIRST PLACE. No one said use this model in America. People are more so enamored that there are countries that actually put their citizens before lobbyist checks.
 
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The modern definition of Corporatism should be a governmental system where the economic laws favor the corporation over the individual. It's often but not always accompanied by a monetary system which gives favorable considerations to corporate interests over the individual.

This is without a doubt America today. This is my defintion, and it won't dare be accepted by academia because academia is a wholly owned corporate subsidiary at this point.

The problem we have in this country as people fighting against plutocracy is that we still allow the plutocrats to define the world around us. We need to be educationg eachother.
 
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The modern definition of Corporatism should be a governmental system where the laws favor the corporation over the individual. It's often but not always accompanied by a monetary system which gives favorable considerations to corporate interest over the individual.

This is without a doubt America today. This my defintion, and it won't dare be accepted by academia because academia is a wholly owned corporate subsidiary at this point.

The problem we have in this country as people fighting against plutocracy is that we still allow the plutocrats to define the world around us. We need to be educationg eachother.
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