Group Economics? Why are blacks afraid to take that leap and be free?

[theworldismine13]

Blacks have attempted to practice capitalism for quite some time actually...of course they never reached the level of white elites, but they attempted to assimilate into that bullshyt..and I'm not a Marxist just stating the truth about the folks that gave the ghetto ipads...I guess we agree to disagree then but I see alot of blacks online happy with capitalist ideas so oh well

sure black people have attempted to practice capitalism, but they have been prevented from doing that, capitalism is based on economic freedom, if you dont have economic freedom you cant have capitalism, and laws have been put to stop people from having economic freedom

and on top of that you have to get the fundamentals right, which is education and skills, that was my original point, once you get that fundamental part rights then you move to group economics and/or capitalism

 

[theworldismine13]

don't be discouraged my brother, we just have to get more iPads into the hands of Black youth.

no, we just have to change our culture to be more focused on academics and we have to change what it means to be a "nikka" and/or eliminate the concept of the "nikka"

 

[theworldismine13]

lol I'm done with you man..you can take care of yourself, then cool

peace

 

[Thoughts]

don't be discouraged my brother, we just have to get more iPads into the hands of Black youth.

THIS

...I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but iPads in the ghetto is changing the game. These kids have access to the outside world that wasn't possible in my generation. It's part of the reason these 90's kids are color blind and multi-cultural, they're interacting exponentially and are given a choice besides the options their parents were limited to.

 

[Matt504]

no, we just have to change our culture to be more focused on academics and we have change what it means to be a "nikka" and/or eliminate the concept of the "nikka"

how do we go about accomplishing that when we let others educate our children, we don't own any of the media they're consuming on their iPads, the Black entertainers who they identify with are perpetuating a lot of this madness because they're receiving paychecks from the same system that wants all of us dead?

if by some miracle we woke up tomorrow and ALL Black people were properly educated and had the skills to build a self sustaing community practicing group economics, had our own schools, own doctors, lawyers etc, would the system of White supremacy allow us to thrive uninterrupted, in your opinion?

 

[theworldismine13]

how do we go about accomplishing that when we let others educate our children,

the first step is you have to eliminate the public school system and switch to charters and vouchers, that way black educators can form their own schools (black capitalism) and parents can send their children to whoever they want

we don't own any of the media they're consuming on their iPads,

black people will never own any media unless we engage in capitalism, do you have an alternative idea on how black people can own media without engaging in capitalism?

the Black entertainers who they identify with are perpetuating a lot of this madness because they're receiving paychecks from the same system that wants all of us dead?

well i dont support rap music and other entertainment so i dont know what to tell you, i realized that delores tucker was right so i dont fuk with the rap industry anymore and i would suggest other people do the same, if its not positive and uplifting to the black race it needs to go in the garbage

if by some miracle we woke up tomorrow and ALL Black people were properly educated and had the skills to build a self sustaing community practicing group economics, had our own schools, own doctors, lawyers etc, would the system of White supremacy allow us to thrive uninterrupted, in your opinion?

well like i said black capitalism is the biggest threat to white supremacy, the more money black people get the more black people will be attacked, im not sure what you dont understand about that, when people are threatened they will attack you, what is so hard to understand about that?

and like i said, white supremacy is an illusion that people believe in, people have to believe in it for it to continue, and the foundation for white supremacy is white economic domination, if you attack white economic domination then by definition you are attacking white supremacy

 

[OsO]

go to any major city and you see examples of group economics in action. jews, latinos, asians, africans, all practice group economics.

no need to reinvent the wheel, black americans just need to follow the blueprint.

 

[Micky Mikey]

well i dont support rap music and other entertainment so i dont know what to tell you, i realized that delores tucker was right so i dont fuk with the rap industry anymore and i would suggest other people do the same, if its not positive and uplifting to the black race it needs to go in the garbage

I still listen to rap from time to time however as I get older I'm beginning to see that this genre of music has provided nothing of substance to our people. Prior to this I had never heard of Delores Tuckers. I looked her up and it seems a lot of people truly despised that women, even though he was telling them to wise up. What do you think can be done to counteract the whole culture of rap. And do you think it presents as large of a problem to our people as some say it does? I know it is off topic.

 

[Matt504]

I still listen to rap from time to time however as I get older I'm beginning to see that this genre of music has provided nothing of substance to our people. Prior to this I had never heard of Delores Tuckers. I looked her up and it seems a lot of people truly despised that women, even though he was telling them to wise up. What do you think can be done to counteract the whole culture of rap. And do you think it presents as large of a problem to our people as some say it does? I know it is off topic.

only thing that can effectively counter rap culture at this point is completely avoiding it together, which would mean living like a mormon because rap culture is literally everywhere.

Black rappers would literally have to stop accepting blood money and rapping about something with substance, and rappers who still choose to rap about bullshyt would have to be made an example out of in a very violent way.

Black people who care about us as a collective need to have all out war with members of the community who are poison, they have got to GO, it's not even optional.

 

[Micky Mikey]

only thing that can effectively counter rap culture at this point is completely avoiding it together, which would mean living like a mormon because rap culture is literally everywhere.

Black rappers would literally have to stop accepting blood money and rapping about something with substance, and rappers who still choose to rap about bullshyt would have to be made an example out of in a very violent way.

Black people who care about us as a collective need to have all out war with members of the community who are poison, they have got to GO, it's not even optional.

Couldn't agree more but wouldn't violence have the potential to only make things worse and get people on THEIR side?

 

[Matt504]

Couldn't agree more but wouldn't violence have the potential to only make things worse and get people on THEIR side?

things are going to get worse regardless, we already have an entire nation against us, so it's a huge slap in the face that people from our own communities are exploiting the Black community for financial gain.

Black communities who are serious about turning things around MUST get rid of these clowns in the Black community by any means necessary, if there's a brother selling crack in the community, there needs to be a Black task force that will murder him right there where he stands. zero tolerance policy. If there's killers in our community who are breaking in houses and doing all kinds of other bullshyt that destroys our community, they need to be killed and made example of.

we are being terrorized by Black people in our own communities and having talks and meeting with these brothers is NOT going to work, there must be action, then we can begin to build community centers led by Black men to raise the children these thugs left behind the RIGHT way.

some brothers may be able to be reformed and make a turnaround, those who refuse must die, simple as that.

 

[Micky Mikey]

things are going to get worse regardless, we already have an entire nation against us, so it's a huge slap in the face that people from our own communities are exploiting the Black community for financial gain.

Black communities who are serious about turning things around MUST get rid of these clowns in the Black community by any means necessary, if there's a brother selling crack in the community, there needs to be a Black task force that will murder him right there where he stands. zero tolerance policy. If there's killers in our community who are breaking in houses and doing all kinds of other bullshyt that destroys our community, they need to be killed and made example of.

we are being terrorized by Black people in our own communities and having talks and meeting with these brothers is NOT going to work, there must be action, then we can begin to build community centers led by Black men to raise the children these thugs left behind the RIGHT way.

some brothers may be able to be reformed and make a turnaround, those who refuse must die, simple as that.

easier said than done. Are you familiar with the Detroit 300? They didn't take half the measures your advocating and they still faced backlash. They ultimately disbanded and were left with no other choice but to take the "community meetings and talks" route. They were ratted out by the very people they were trying to help at that. Again, I completely agree with what your saying but it would be rather difficult considering how pervasive and accepted the whole "criminal/thug" culture is.

 

[Matt504]

easier said than done. Are you familiar with the Detroit 300? They didn't take half the measures your advocating and they still faced backlash. They ultimately disbanded and were left with no other choice but to take the "community meetings and talks" route. They were ratted out by the very people they were trying to help at that. Again, I completely agree with what your saying but it would be rather difficult considering how pervasive and accepted the whole "criminal/thug" culture is.

I actually haven't heard of the Detroit 300, I'm gonna go look them up asap.

 

[theworldismine13]

I still listen to rap from time to time however as I get older I'm beginning to see that this genre of music has provided nothing of substance to our people. Prior to this I had never heard of Delores Tuckers. I looked her up and it seems a lot of people truly despised that women, even though he was telling them to wise up. What do you think can be done to counteract the whole culture of rap. And do you think it presents as large of a problem to our people as some say it does? I know it is off topic.

hmm yeah, i dont have a solution except time and osmosis (just be people getting out more and looking at rap from a different angle), when you are deep into rap its hard to understand the angle somebody like delores tucker is coming from but only after being out in the world and looking at things differently do i understand what she was saying and i see that suge and russell and their white friends in corporate america were full of shyt, i think/hop that bit by bit the rap world can b exposed

rap is just part of a larger anti academic culture, so getting rid of rap would just solve apart of the problem, but overall i think rap is as big as a problem as some people say it is, i think we have to get back to the 9 elements and make rap just 1 of many elements which is what its suppose to be, rap is dying down commercially so that is one ray of hope, its not as commercially viable to be a "nikka" as it use to be

 

[DEAD7]

Black communities who are serious about turning things around MUST get rid of these clowns in the Black community by any means necessary, if there's a brother selling crack in the community, there needs to be a Black task force that will murder him right there where he stands. zero tolerance policy. If there's killers in our community who are breaking in houses and doing all kinds of other bullshyt that destroys our community, they need to be killed and made example of.

we are being terrorized by Black people in our own communities and having talks and meeting with these brothers is NOT going to work, there must be action, then we can begin to build community centers led by Black men to raise the children these thugs left behind the RIGHT way.

some brothers may be able to be reformed and make a turnaround, those who refuse must die, simple as that.