GRAPEVINE EDITION: Can Black People Be Racist?
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its always been hard for me to watch grapevine. like I don't see anyone who I think I would be cool with. The black folks don't look like they represent my demographic.
Looks like feminist and dudes who submit to women. One of the guests who has rich parents has a youtube channel about how she's been a perpetual side chic
I learned that racsim is prejudice + power. So with that definition we cant' be racist, but we can be prejudice.
onelastdeath
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Having the least amount of systemic power is not the same as having no power.
You learned (aka you read online) that Racism is prejudice + power, and that may be true, but the only way black people “couldn’t be racist” under that rule is if we were powerless, which we are not.
The inferiority with nikkas is something I can’t get with anymore.
Exactly right. Cosign 100%.
Racism outside of the context of WHITE SUPREMACY doesn't exist. Its just name calling.
SO YOU GONNA ANSWER MY QUESTION OR JUST KEEP DODGING?
I have looked up that history and have mentioned it already in this thread. Race and Racism only came into existence in the 1500s and 1600s as a justification for American Chattel Slavery. Before that the concept of race didn't exist. Nations and tribes existed. But the idea that skin color could unite people under one group was a creation of Europeans in the 1500s-1600s. Before that period of time the concepts of whiteness or blackness did not exist. In addition, the exact idea of who is black and who is white has evolved over time. Everyone who is considered white TODAY was not considered white in the past. For example Jews, Italians, and the Irish only became white in the 1900s. Before that they were not white.
Race is a social construct. And racism is a tool used by white supremacists to advance an agenda that gives them more power and privilege than other races. That is why only whites can be racist against all other races. And its also the reason why non-white races like Asians, Arabs, and non-black Hispanics cannot be racist against one another. Their inter-racial interests and disputes were never really ranked vis-a-vis one another the way black people were ranked vis-a-vis all other races. The white supremacist racism paradigm is very simple. Whites on top. Blacks at the bottom. Everyone else in the middle. Groups like Asians, Arabs, and non-black Hispanics can be racist only against black people and that is because they are proxies for the advancement of white supremacy.
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When other non-white races express or act in a manner that is discriminatory against black people, they are acting as agents of white supremacy and thus it is racism.
What have black people done to Asians, Arabs, or non-black Hispanics to engender the sort of vicious hatred those groups typically have toward black people? We have not colonized them in the recent past. We have not economically, socially, or politically dominated them. The only reason non-whites like Asians. Arabs, and Hispanics have such anti-black sentiment is because they are also under a system of white supremacy and because they want to gain favor from the white supremacists they will try to discriminate and dominate black as well. Subservient groups do this all the time. They do it to gain favor from the ruling class. And also because they don't want to associated with black people who are at the bottom of the racial hierarchy according to white supremacy.
Political and economic power do matter. If you believe another race is inferior to yours you're racist, period.
If this true, then tell me a racial slur as insidious or powerful as the N word?
filial_piety
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the use of a racial slur or the "power" that it has isn't the metric of whether one is racist or not.
I disagree and you assume too much. Just because you observe you have no power within a particular 'kingdom' does not mean you see yourself as inferior. That's lack of thinking or lazy minded. You observe that you are at a disadvantage. Some one having a better hand in a card game does not mean they are superior to you, it just means they have a better hand in the game.
You come off as having a fragile ego or just a cac.
I guess you could call it racism. But since its only directed at the same race they are, we have a special name for those type of people. They are called c00nS.
The best analogy I have for this is, we wouldn't call someone who kills themselves a MURDERER. There is a special term to designate someone who does that act even if by the definition of murder (which is the intentional killing for a person) it is murder. Its called SUICIDE.
Similarly, a black person who is actively working to advance white supremacy and damage black people is not a racist in the same way someone who commits suicide isn't a murderer. That type of black person is called a c00n, uncle tom, self-hating negro, etc.
Then please break down exactly how I'm wrong.
Cause this is the type of statement someone makes when they are angry that they've been INTELLECTUALLY DEFEATED.
Asians/Arabs/non-black Hispanics are working for white supremacy if they are racist to black folks, but not if they're being racist to each other?
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As far as I can tell there has no been clear differentiation between them in the white supremacist power structure to make their interactions the equivalent of when they interact with black people. Its clear that black people have been placed at the bottom of the white supremacist racial hierarchy. With regard to Asians, Arabs, and non-black Hispanics, its difficult to tell exactly who is more privileged in the system of white supremacy.
At the end of the day, this entire system has been created by white people. Everyone else are simply playing their role. Those non-black minority groups are anti-black only because they want to gain favor from whites and to elevate themselves in this racial hierarchy.
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