Got Loyalty Got Royalty Inside Our DNA. Official Miami Heat 2017-18 Season Thread #DoItForTheCulture

[Primetime21]

Harris isn't untradeable, the problem is what do you have to offer them? They already have a young SF that has questionable offense in Stanley Johnson, so that crosses off Winslow, in a trade for Dragic they have no reason to throw anything in, it would be a straight swap for Jackson since he's younger, they already have a Center in Drummond and Bradley is better tan Waiters.

There's really nothing the Heat can offer the Pistons for Harris, he's signed for another year on a great contract too.

I'm not even interested in Harris. The problem we have is the "nucleus" if we even want to call it that (Dragic/Whiteside) doesn't mesh. Dragic excels with finesse bigs, guys that want to pick and pop and space the floor..ironically we had that with Bosh but we never saw them play together. Dragic is on a good deal and playing well above his career averages, they would be wise to sell high.

The Waiters resigning is looking like a mistake too but I cant even fault them there, J-Rich didn't instill confidence last year that he could be the guy moving forward.

 

[Captain Crunch]

How do we fix this mess?

This Year: Do nothing

This offseason: Trade Whiteside and Dragic to the highest bidders; try to extend Winslow for the low in case he blossoms his 4th year(3yrs/30 mil with a 3rd year team option).

Next year: Tank hard for Barrett; Langford, Reddish, and Bol

 

[Primetime21]

This Year: Do nothing

This offseason: Trade Whiteside and Dragic to the highest bidders; try to extend Winslow for the low in case he blossoms his 4th year(3yrs/30 mil with a 3rd year team option).

Next year: Tank hard for Barrett; Langford, Reddish, and Bol

Do you know which agency represents Winslow? They are not going to advise him to sign a contract that pays him less than the guy he's currently outperforming at only a portion of the minutes.

 

[Malta]

I'm not even interested in Harris. The problem we have is the "nucleus" if we even want to call it that (Dragic/Whiteside) doesn't mesh. Dragic excels with finesse bigs, guys that want to pick and pop and space the floor..ironically we had that with Bosh but we never saw them play together. Dragic is on a good deal and playing well above his career averages, they would be wise to sell high.

The Waiters resigning is looking like a mistake too but I cant even fault them there, J-Rich didn't instill confidence last year that he could be the guy moving forward.

The window to trade Dragic was last year, there are very few teams that really need a PG, the Bucks were one of the few competitive teams that needed one, outside of that everyone else is pretty much set with what they have. The core of the Heat isn't that great, there's not much offensive talent and the talent they do have isn't a great fit like you said.


Winslow not developing is really what hurts the Heat more than anything else, especially when you compare him Devin Booker who was taken after him. If he were even a average three point shooter the Heat would be a much better team, but it seems like that is years away from happening if it ever does.


And to top it all off, if you miss the playoffs this is the big man draft It's mostly PFs and Cs in the lottery.

 

[Primetime21]

The window to trade Dragic was last year, there are very few teams that really need a PG, the Bucks were one of the few competitive teams that needed one, outside of that everyone else is pretty much set with what they have. The core of the Heat isn't that great, there's not much offensive talent and the talent they do have isn't a great fit like you said.


Winslow not developing is really what hurts the Heat more than anything else, especially when you compare him Devin Booker who was taken after him. If he were even a average three point shooter the Heat would be a much better team, but it seems like that is years away from happening if it ever does.


And to top it all off, if you miss the playoffs this is the big man draft It's mostly PFs and Cs in the lottery.

fukk Devin Booker he can't even get Phoenix to the playoffs

 

[Malta]

fukk Devin Booker he can't even get Phoenix to the playoffs

Imagine what a teams record would look like if Winslow were the franchise player, Booker on the Heat with the players you have already is a better squad, Riles just missed

 

[Draje]

Why bring him up when they won't give him up? Why not bring up Jason Tatum while you're at? Or Anthony Davis? Or Durant?
So team is off to a rough start and that's what y'all minds go through?

 

[Primetime21]

Imagine what a teams record would look like if Winslow were the franchise player, Booker on the Heat with the players you have already is a better squad, Riles just missed

HOF SG already in tow, we went with need at the time. It wasnt a miss to me, 12 other teams passed on Booker and the consensus on draft night was Winslow was a steal. Even in a re-draft Winslow is still great value @ 10 when you consider Booker would go top 5.

 

[Malta]

HOF SG already in tow, we went with need at the time. It wasnt a miss to me, 12 other teams passed on Booker and the consensus on draft night was Winslow was a steal. Even in a re-draft Winslow is still great value @ 10 when you consider Booker would go top 5.

Disagree, I don't think Winslow was a steal at 10, Rondae Hollis Jefferson went 23 and is a better player than Justise is right now, both have the same weakness but RHJ can put the ball in the hoop efficiently. Oubre was also at 15 too, the fact Winslow can't shoot and is a long way off from having a reliable jumper puts a damper on what he can be.

If they did a redraft RHJ, Portis, Nance and Oubre would all go before him.

 

[Captain Crunch]

And to top it all off, if you miss the playoffs this is the big man draft It's mostly PFs and Cs in the lottery.

That's why it's important to lose our pick this year, to have it next year.

This shyt gon go haywire come next year, so I'm already prepping for Barrett; Romeo, or Reddish

Aside from RJ, who you think will look best in a Heat jersey from the '19 class?

 

[intruder]

I like this.

They'll play better or implode and get traded

If we're honest with ourselves, us Heat fans were the only ones with very high expectations of this team. Most of the NBA season previews thought there was no way we keep up that 30-11 momentum at the end of last year. Most pegged us between 41 and 44 wins

Many times during the offseason I saw "50+ wins" and "top 2-3 seed" being thrown around the thread and while I chuckled at the high expectations I'll admit mine weren't that far below it. I always though we were good for about 46 wins. I only thought we could reach 50 if a lot of things went right. And that was a LOT of things that needed to go right and you can't really expect that often.

As bad as we're playing we're currently stand at what? 5-9? I think we could get back on track if we look at what worked for us last year. Mainly a heavy dose of Dion and Dragiç penetrating and kicking to shooters and WhiteSide in the middle. We'll have to somehow mix Winslow and Olynyk into this scenario

 

[Primetime21]

Disagree, I don't think Winslow was a steal at 10, Rondae Hollis Jefferson went 23 and is a better player than Justise is right now, both have the same weakness but RHJ can put the ball in the hoop efficiently. Oubre was also at 15 too, the fact Winslow can't shoot and is a long way off from having a reliable jumper puts a damper on what he can be.

If they did a redraft RHJ, Portis, Nance and Oubre would all go before him.

revisionist history and hell no

 

[CouldBeWorse]

Winslow not developing is really what hurts

You need minutes to develop.

 

[Malta]

revisionist history and hell no

Portis - 13ppg, 8rpg 39% from three as a PF in 22mpg

Oubre - 11ppg 6rpg 1spg 41% from three

Both guys are playing better than Winslow this year

 

[Primetime21]

Portis - 13ppg, 8rpg 39% from three as a PF in 22mpg

Oubre - 11ppg 6rpg 1spg 41% from three

Both guys are playing better than Winslow this year

how many minutes per game for Oubre?

Portis looting in a riot