Google/Android is spyware.
Google is doing TOO much. They really are spying brehs
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I had my Bluetooth headset on listening to music at first, but once the dj started i stopped my music. My dad called too, but that was also before the music.
My Bluetooth headset was on tho the entire time i was in the barbershop
Swear i never did. Girl told me I made the store smell like weed so she hurried me
Yea a
with ads and I've tested it, so I go to a deal website called slickdeals.net, quite often outside of the coli its my most visited site
anyways for whatever reason a few months ago I noticed I was talking out loud how I need some toothpaste (example) few days later I go on slickdeals.net, and boom toothpaste on sale, that was my first time
few days late I did it on purpose spoke out loud how I needed batteries sure enough before I know it I go on slickdeals and batteries are for sale
how /why it happens tbh don't know don't care to know
but it's definitely some matrix shyt
even today was talking about how I wanted Mac and cheese (only mentioned it one time) next thing I know
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No, Google Isn't Eavesdropping on You for Ads and Predictions
More than 250 Android Games Use Your Mic to Track What You're Watching
Trust No One
Root + Adaway + Xposed framework + X Privacy + Afwall
No, Google Isn’t Eavesdropping on You for Those Crazy Ads and Predictions
«My phone was in my pocket as I was talking to my friend about XYZ. I had never heard of XYZ before (my friend brought it up), and I didn’t google it or anything. Yet when I opened an app a day later, I saw ads related to XYZ! Is Google listening in on my conversations to serve me ads?»
You might have seen a variation of this subject popping up on Android or technology forums (it seems pretty popular on Reddit, where I see it every few months in /r/Android, /r/technology or a device-specific subreddit). Is it true, then? The short answer is no.
The longer answer is: Google doesn’t need to, because it gathers a lot more information about you and your surroundings to deliver targeted ads or tailored search suggestions. Want an even longer answer? Then keep reading!
Why Google Isn’t Constantly Listening
First of all, let’s start off by explaining why Google isn’t constantly listening to your conversations (regardless of privacy and ethical implications). The explanation is rather simple: it would require your phone to be constantly awake, and would use up all your battery in a matter of hours (even if you’re not using your phone).
«But OK Google detection does exactly that and barely affects the battery!», you might say. However, that’s a bit different. Before going into more details, a very quick reminder on how Android power management works:
Battery drain is maximal when the device is fully awake (that’s when you’re normally using your phone), noticeable but less-so when partially awake, and negligible when asleep. To give a rough idea, my Nexus 6P would use up around 25% of battery per hour if kept constantly in the first state, around 5% per hour in the second with normal CPU usage, and a negligible amount (around 0% per hour, theoretically) in the last state. If the CPU is actively being used while partially awake (as opposed to simply holding a CPU wakelock), then power usage can shoot up by quite a bit and drain the battery in a matter of hours. As you might have figured out by now, the CPU requires a lot of battery when it’s actively being used.
That brings us to voice recognition, which is a CPU intensive task. Doing it constantly would ensure your phone’s battery doesn’t last you a full day even if you don’t touch it. Doing it accurately is even more of a challenge, which is why Android (and other platforms, such as iOS) usually compress voice recordings and send it to the cloud for processing on more powerful computers.
How does “OK Google” detection work, then? It actually uses a special feature in your phone’s processor, designed to be extremely light on power as it doesn’t require the CPU to be fully awake. The feature is quite limited, though, and will only detect specific sound bites set by the OEM. This is a much simpler problem than voice recognition (listening to what the user is saying and understanding it to translate it into words). Instead, it only detects “hotwords” (checking if heard noise is similar to the noise saved by the OEM). Only once a hotword is detected, the phone is woken up and Google Assistant launched.
In summary: is Google constantly listening in? No. Can Google constantly listen in? Yes (but that would nuke your battery and/or data usage and would be noticed rather quickly). More importantly, though: does Google even need to listen in to every word you say to give you scarily-accurate advertisements or search suggestions?
How Google Shows You Advertisements
Developers reserve spots in their apps and lets Google know about them, Google handles the rest. It doesn’t just deliver random advertisements, though: it will do its best to deliver targeted advertisements that you’re most likely to be interested in. Several factors are taken into consideration, including:
The collected information isn’t device specific. If you use a computer and an Android device, all this data will be linked to your account. In some cases, Google may also link searches done on your network (e.g. by a family member connected to the same router) to you.
- Some information about you (including your age range and gender).
- What you’re searching for, or topics you’ve searched for in the past.
- The types of websites you visit, or the types of content you usually look at from Google searches and in other apps (e.g. video categories you often watch on YouTube)
- The content of your emails (for Gmail ads; your emails are automatically analyzed for certain keywords).
- Apps you have installed on your Android phone. (Installed a bunch of fitness apps lately? Fitness related ads would be appropriate!)
- Specific websites and apps you visit (if they’re also serving Google advertisements).
- Your current location, as well as your location history (e.g. to show you nearby businesses or ads from businesses you’ve visited). Your location can be determined from several sources, including your search terms, IP address, GPS, nearby WiFi access points or cell towers.
It’s clear that Google knows quite a lot about you, unless you’ve taken measures against that (if you are, make sure to visit the privacy and security hub Google launched a while back; you may also want to check out Pulser_G2’s “Say Sayonara” series). And even if you did, Google can still figure out quite a bit about you, even as an anonymous user.
With all this in mind, it’s not too difficult to see how Google can deliver accurate advertisements. Never googled a topic before, but started getting advertisements about it after having discussing it with a friend? There are several explanations for that:
How Google Shows You Search Suggestions
- You were getting advertisements about it before, but you’ve never noticed it till now.
- You’re discussing a recent topic, which is why advertisements are popping up now.
- Someone else googled the topic, but you were on the same network so Google thought it might be you.
A variation of the tale we imagined at the beginning of this article involves seeing spooky search suggestions, not advertisements. While you might not be aware of it, search suggestions are actually different from user to user, and are based on several factors other than what you’ve typed so far:
Again, it’s easy to see how you might get suggestions that would seem impossible, but actually make a lot of sense if you know how it works. Visited some shop and heard a new song, then asked your friend its name and Google later suggested the full name after typing three letters? It’s probably just a popular new song, and other people around you are probably just googling it as well.
- If you’re signed in, searches you’ve done in the past: if you’re a programmer and often search for programming-related queries, you’re more likely to get results about the programming language than the island if you search for “Java”.
- Trending stories (popular topics in your area right now). This includes searches other users around you are performing, allowing Google to give you suggestions about popular nearby events, for example.
- New and diverse results are prioritized, so that you don’t get several results that are too similar or too old to be relevant.
Can You Opt-Out?
If you’d rather opt-out of as much tracking and targeted data as possible, follow these steps — but keep in mind that a lot can be traced back to your online identity, even if anonymously:
Wrapping Up
- Check Google’s “My Activity” page to see some of the data Google collects about you.
- Visit the “My Account” section to manage which data Google uses, including activity controls and ads settings.
- For more drastic measures, consider ditching Google’s services altogether. Pulser_G2’s “Say Sayonara” series might be a good starting point, as well as his guide on setting up Android Marshmallow without Google and Jake Westall’s article about living without Google services (including a nice battery comparison).
To wrap-up, is it possible that Google is listening to your conversations? Absolutely (from a purely technological point of view)! In practice, however, it’s extremely unlikely for the following reasons:
In other words: is eavesdropping possible? Yes. It is needed? Not really, not for the targeted advertising or auto-completion that we’re seeing. Is it happening on your Android device, to net you better predictions? No.
- The battery drain required to do so would be extremely noticeable. (Certainly more than the random Play Services fits.)
- It would be easy to detect by monitoring network usage and sent packets, CPU usage/wakelocks or even microphone awake state logging. (We would have caught on by now.)
- The alternative explanations listed in this article are very compelling, and people really underestimate how accurate predictions can be just from contextual data. (And it only gets creepier!)
More than 250 Android Games Use Your Mic to Track What You're Watching
Trust No One
Root + Adaway + Xposed framework + X Privacy + Afwall
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Brolic Scholar
Licensed Text Technician
I've had Google show ads about shyt I THOUGHT about and didn't say out loud. That's some spooky shyt. Things I didn't even search. I put that on my kids.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying Google can read minds. I think something on my phone, an app or something looks at my search patterns and uses an algorithm to predict or suggest things based on that.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying Google can read minds. I think something on my phone, an app or something looks at my search patterns and uses an algorithm to predict or suggest things based on that.
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they just tracked your location to a hair business
usually they just doing it for advertisment they dont care about the shea moisture your girl wants
I keep location off on my phone. Don't allow apps permission on my phone
newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
So you have no apps other than factory installed right?
luciddreamer
All Star
You don't want to to be tracked , live in the bush.....tis what it is....
J.E.T.S
Lookahere mayne...
It's listening
I can throw this phone or break it at any given time whenever I want. Name on the phone is James Brown. I have tiny scanner, wickr, uTorrent and whatsapp.
Dak Pickscott
Shout out to Dallas my bih is a star
google already know whats happening next in our lives
