True Darkseid
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So how he the GOAT if he can't surpass Gokuyeah veGoata always been chasing gokuand goku will always surpass him
im cool with that but that dont mean goku ever beat vegeta
Goku NEVER beat Vegeta so why yall clowning the Prince
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humminbird
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Stan an idiot brehs
True Darkseid
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Breh, I guess you didn't read well when I say I love Vegeta, but ya mans get beat the fukk up severely by all the major people dawg.
I still need answers on this.
Didn't cell kill trunks after he came back to life when goku sacrificed himself? So gohan was responsible for the death of his father and vegeta son because he was toying with cell instead of finishing the fight. He didn't want a third death looming on his mind so he jumped infront of the blast... I really don't see how that's vegeta's fault at all
xiceman191
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How is he an idiot in this scene how was he supposed to know that the kid from the future was his son? He ain't know shyt about the dude including his name until just that moment. Its not like Goku who has to question if the kid is his when the kid looks exactly like him. You reaching bruh
Vegeta put the beats on him severely the first time they fought and Goku had to jump him with 3 of his homies
Then when they fought again in the Buu saga Vegeta knocked him out
So why are yall dissing the Prince of the Sayians like he isn't 2-0 against Kakarot?
And don't talk to me about no ssj3 like this shyt don't take 1 episode to charge up
this post is 100% fallacy
in the boo saga goku held back against vegeta
Vol. 42 Ch. 503 (Dragon Ball) - MangaDex
in the saiyan saga vegeta admitted that goku was stronger and he had to turn great ape to compete.
Vol. 20 Ch. 232 (Dragon Ball) - MangaDex
Vol. 20 Ch. 232 (Dragon Ball) - MangaDex
True Darkseid
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xiceman191
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Vol. 21 Ch. 241 (Dragon Ball) - MangaDex
If Vegeta lost the moment he transformed into the Oozaru then Goku lost the minute he used kaioken. Vegeta didn't have full knowledge of the kaioken attack as well as the effects it had on the user's body. Without kaioken Vegeta was putting the beats on him and had a difficult time keeping up with Vegeta. In fact, Goku wasn't touching him without kaioken.
With SS3 yea he held back but in the end coulda, woulda, shoulda.
.Vegeta hadn't shown a single iota of being a loving dad before, yet he gets all emotional when his son from the future gets murked by a stronger version of the same nikka that shytted on him mere weeks earlier
.Like, Vegeta knew he wasn't going to do anything, but still went in guns blazing
. He caused Gohan to get hurt because of this.
True Darkseid
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Vol. 21 Ch. 241 (Dragon Ball) - MangaDex
If Vegeta lost the moment he transformed into the Oozaru then Goku lost the minute he used kaioken. Vegeta didn't have full knowledge of the kaioken attack as well as the effects it had on the user's body. Without kaioken Vegeta was putting the beats on him and had a difficult time keeping up with Vegeta. In fact, Goku wasn't touching him without kaioken.
With SS3 yea he held back but in the end coulda, woulda, shoulda.
i agree without kaioken goku's max was 8000 and vegetas was 18k so he would slaughter.
vegeta considers the oozaru as a latch ditch resort nothing that a saiyan prince should resort to while kaioken is goku's normal arsenal of fighting until he reached ssj
nightwing2016
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Goku got his ass beat by fat robot clown. Wouldved gotten worked his ass beat even worse than Vegeta if he had fought 18. Vegeta's SSJ at that time was stronger than Goku's SSJ.
How was he an incel if he already had a son and was with Bulma when he went SSJ?
Outclassed by who? Goku was dead and Vegeta was the strongest Z fighter. The only reason Goku can do ssj3 is because he was dead. As stated, you don't need to eat or sleep when you die. Goku was training nonstop for 7 years to get ssj3. He wouldn't have gotten it otherwise, nor is it viable in the living world. Drains stamina too fast on living people. Which is why he was so shocked that he and Vegeta's ssj2 was even despite the power boost your levels get from your highest ssj level. It's why Goku acknowledged that even though the boosts he gets from training while dead, Vegeta somehow was training even harder since they were even at ssj2. He defeated absolutely ZERO people as ssj3. He cant finish anyone fast enough despite the power boost it gives him because it drains him too quickly. Which is why Vegeta's and Trunk's ssj2 is stronger than Gokus ssj3. He don't even use it anymore.
Ssj4 not canon.
How she a bustdown and she's only been linked to 2 men in her whole life? bytch is 50 something. And the richest person on the planet.
Goku ain't caught no bodies. Piccolo killed Raditz, Vegeta killed Nappa after losing to Goku. Goku lost to Vegeta. Krillin, Gohan, Yaijirobi helped Goku win against Vegeta after he thanked a spirit bomb. Goku killed none of the Ginyus. Didn't kill Frieza, lost to the first Android he fought, hid from all the rest until Cell. Lost to Cell then Gohan killed him and died. Fought Vegeta to a stalemate, fought Fat Buu and couldn't kill him. Fought Super Buu and couldn't kill him. Fought Kid Buu and couldn't kill him. nikka that's all of Z right there.
And Trunk's is >>>>>Gohan. nikka is damn near SSJ God level after training with Vegeta and fighting Black in Super. Gohan was still struggling with no name fighters in the tournament.
Goku is also under 6ft tall.
1. Goku had a heart disease during that fight with Android 19 and was giving him a beat down before the disease started to affect him and he rushed a kamehameha wave to end the fight.
2. A fight between Goku and 18 would go completely differently. Goku would not of underestimated her and got his ass beat like that. Also we don’t know the depth of Goku’s ssj power because of the heart disease odds are he was more powerful then vegeta.
3. Goku was trying to talk vegeta out of fighting he didn’t want that fight because he saw the bigger threat Majin Buu. When Goku got serious Vegeta was getting the beats again. Ssj2 is not stronger than ssj3 stop.
Super’s powerscale is all out of wack and makes no since.
4. Goku doesn’t kill, how is this an argument since his training with Kami he hasn’t killed anyone sparing piccolo at the end of dragonball and sparing Vegeta when killing was going to slice his ass up and he was going to spare frieza.
5. Trunks the same trunks trained by Gohan, that lost an arm protecting him. Gohan at the end of Z is the strongest non fused character. It is know that if Gohan enjoyed fighting he would easily be the strongest character. Gohan is providing for his family and being a father to Pan.
Trunks is a cool character but has never shown the potential of Gohan. Goten sure but Gohan nah but respect on Goathan’s name.
Look at these bytcheta Stan's trying to spin shyt, dudes name will never ring out and he will forever be inferior to Goku 
