Going Undercover At Homeless Shelter Reveals Abuses and Exploitation

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Of course it was dangerous inside... you got people working there sexually exploiting the people they are supposed to be serving + protecting... in other words, its dangerous because of people like dude

So nah, nobody is overblowing anything. Regardless of how "good she looks"... the shyt was inappropriate and scummy :beli:

yes, the other incidents she talked about (favors for laundry and what not) are scummy but her interaction with him didn't seem too offensive :yeshrug: he asked her to come home with him. even offered mcdonalds :leon: sounds like a reasonable offer.
 

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yes, the other incidents she talked about (favors for laundry and what not) are scummy but her interaction with him didn't seem too offensive :yeshrug: he asked her to come home with him. even offered mcdonalds :leon: sounds like a reasonable offer.

Bruh that interaction was a straight up primer on how most sexual abuse works. She felt fear immediately, and that combined with the obvious power imbalance of the situation, where he can easily use his power as staff member to treat her poorly if she refuses should be a major red flag. His later behavior only confirmed it.
 

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Bruh that interaction was a straight up primer on how most sexual abuse works. She felt fear immediately, and that combined with the obvious power imbalance of the situation, where he can easily use his power as staff member to treat her poorly if she refuses should be a major red flag. His later behavior only confirmed it.

How do you figure? She can always leave.
 

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Bruh that interaction was a straight up primer on how most sexual abuse works. She felt fear immediately, and that combined with the obvious power imbalance of the situation, where he can easily use his power as staff member to treat her poorly if she refuses should be a major red flag. His later behavior only confirmed it.

how is one adult offering another adult a meal and a place to sleep (with the hint that sex is likely involved) abuse :why:

we're not talking about a child, minor, old person, crazy person, drunk, drug addict, etc. We're talking about a normal chick PRETENDING to be homeless.

Maybe the dude was a simp and thought, wow, she's alright to be homeless, I should try to save her. And you know what, he's right BECAUSE THE BISH WASN'T HOMELESS.
 

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How do you figure? She can always leave.

There's always choice in power imbalances, though. I think the point here really concerns the way in which that power imbalance constrains and colors those choices. People who go to shelters generally do so because they feel they need it, so much so that many of them accept the abuse because they think living on the street would still be worse. The staff member obviously knows that.
 

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how is one adult offering another adult a meal and a place to sleep (with the hint that sex is likely involved) abuse :why:

we're not talking about a child, minor, old person, crazy person, drunk, drug addict, etc. We're talking about a normal chick PRETENDING to be homeless.

Maybe the dude was a simp and thought, wow, she's alright to be homeless, I should try to save her. And you know what, he's right BECAUSE THE BISH WASN'T HOMELESS.

1. It wasn't an offer. He insisted, rather than asking her, refused to accept her answer until she relented, cornered her alone throughout the day, made sure no one else knew what he was doing, and tracked her movements. That's not the behavior of someone with a kind offer. It's the behavior of a rapist.

2. It doesn't matter if she was homeless or not. If you treat any woman like that, then you're trash. Trying to find excuses for his behavior is embarrassing.
 

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There's always choice in power imbalances, though. I think the point here really concerns the way in which that power imbalance constrains and colors those choices. People who go to shelters generally do so because they feel they need it, so much so that many of them accept the abuse because they think living on the street would still be worse. The staff member obviously knows that.

:usure: sounds like a cat was just trying to get a nut and you making all sorts of assumptions to justify your worldview.
 

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]There's always choice in power imbalances, though. [/B]


I think the point here really concerns the way in which that power imbalance constrains and colors those choices. People who go to shelters generally do so because they feel they need it, so much so that many of them accept the abuse because they think living on the street would still be worse. The staff member obviously knows that.

News to me

I think you're confusing need and want.


the staff member is probably playing with the same deck of cards the homeless person is
 

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yes, the other incidents she talked about (favors for laundry and what not) are scummy but her interaction with him didn't seem too offensive :yeshrug: he asked her to come home with him. even offered mcdonalds :leon: sounds like a reasonable offer.

:snoop: @ what I imagine your dating life to look like.

He didn't ask/offer her, he insisted despite her refusal. 'Offer' would be a question, and it would stop once she refused.

He didn't sweet talk her or have other convo, he didn't try to gauge her interest, or 'save her'. He was interested in an unequal transaction, he knew he was the one in power and she was the one in need and he exploited it.
 

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News to me

I think you're confusing need and want.


the staff member is probably playing with the same deck of cards the homeless person is

You're showing your hand too early. You have to string people along further before you drop the obvious troll post.
 

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@ what I imagine your dating life to look like.

He didn't ask/offer her, he insisted despite her refusal. 'Offer' would be a question, and it would stop once she refused.

He didn't sweet talk her or have other convo, he didn't try to gauge her interest, or 'save her'. He was interested in an unequal transaction, he knew he was the one in power and she was the one in need and he exploited it.

I must've missed the part of the story where he raped her.


Sounds like she was acting coy.
 

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:snoop: @ what I imagine your dating life to look like.

He didn't ask/offer her, he insisted despite her refusal. 'Offer' would be a question, and it would stop once she refused.

He didn't sweet talk her or have other convo, he didn't try to gauge her interest, or 'save her'. He was interested in an unequal transaction, he knew he was the one in power and she was the one in need and he exploited it.

reading is fundamental breh. even the author called it a "proposition"

He asked me if I had been there before. I told him no. He asked for my name. I made one up. He asked me for my phone number. I thought that was odd so I made one up. He told me to wait outside.

I went out with the other ladies and children and a few minutes later he came out. He told me that the phone number I gave him did not work.

I told him it was dead and I needed to charge it.

He said, "Okay, well here is my number. Call me and we can hook up later tonight."

Did I just get propositioned by a staff member? I was infuriated but did not want to break my cover.

I answered, "Nah, man, I just need some food and some sleep."

"You don't want to sleep in there. It's dangerous. You can come sleep at my place. We can stop at McDonald's."
 

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reading is fundamental breh. even the author called it a "proposition"

The author also called it "preying" and "scary"
Let's go over the dialogue again:


He said, "Okay, well here is my number. Call me and we can hook up later tonight." (not a question)

I answered, "Nah (no), man, I just need some food and some sleep."

"You don't want to sleep in there. It's dangerous. You can come sleep at my place. We can stop at McDonald's." (not a question)

He said, "It's not safe in there for women. You are better off coming home with me. I get off at 11:45. Just meet me in that parking lot over there." (not a question)

I wanted him to leave me alone so I told him I would go with him later.

He asked me to be discreet and don't tell anyone I was going. (Do you ask your dates to keep things quiet over and over again too?)

The man came back to remind me I was leaving with him at 11:45 and to be discreet.

As the women were told to come back in, the staff member that kept asking me for sex told me to "Wait here." In. The. Cage...Alone.

I immediately put my foot in the door just before he shut it.


Anytime a man wants to shut me alone in a cage and wants to make sure I dont tell anyone about plans I didn't really consent to, I don't think it is a "reasonable offer".
 
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