God's 12 Biggest d1ck Moves in the Old Testament

[NoMayo15]

everything i said is in the bible. maybe you're not up on that shyt tho.. I can quote it if you want.

my point being that everyone has a different opinion on the bible. that's why there's so many different splinter groups. That and the bible is bullshyt...

And notice that he didn't say anything to debate the facts that you presented that are in the bible, the mosiac law that god viewed as moral, apparently. All he'll do is post smileys and dismiss you.

 

[NoMayo15]

Nope. Because theres still the question of what caused it to do that at t=0. I mean, you can close your eyes and ears to trying to understand that, but there will always be that whole no matter what theories they come up with on what caused the universe to come into existence.

If time didn't exist before that event, then there is no BEFORE. There can't be a cause for something that happens at the same time as time itself. But yes, you can invoke whatever imaginary thing to say caused it as you'd like.

So you couldnt prove Washington existed was my question? Since writings/pictures do not count as proof.

Who says writings and pictures don't count as proof? You?

YOU dont know.

How do you know?

Well as I said, pick a specific topic and then we'll continue. If it is something that I said in this thread or another, bring it to the table. If it is a topic you're interested in understanding, bring it to the table. Otherwise we'll leave it at that. Im not the one that is inquiring of something. YOU ARE.

Okay well lets talk about sanctioned slavery in the bible. Go.

 

[Everythingg]

General relativity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_singularity.

Sounds like a deep explanation of God lol

Well, when you have people who deny science, and pray that things will get better, then sure, problems like this will exacerbate. But that has nothing to do with whether or not humans are more or less moral than they were in the past ... which is what the discussion was about in the first place.

Oh yeaaaa.... The problems with the environment are because of people praying

And how does increased destroying of the earth and the environment around you that will affect the people around you and the people after you not part of the discussion of morality?

 

[Everythingg]

everything i said is in the bible. maybe you're not up on that shyt tho.. I can quote it if you want.

I didnt say it wasnt in the bible. What I will now say is that if you read the bible front to back, then you would know which of those are applicable and which ones arent.

my point being that everyone has a different opinion on the bible. that's why there's so many different splinter groups. That and the bible is bullshyt...

Of course. Because people constantly take one verse and make it stand over all others in a negative way. For instance, with that women speaking up in church. How can that verse stand over the fact that in the bible there were female prophets? IT CANT. Therefore you know it isnt something to be followed because you read the bible beginning to end.

 

[Everythingg]

And notice that he didn't say anything to debate the facts that you presented that are in the bible, the mosiac law that god viewed as moral, apparently. All he'll do is post smileys and dismiss you.

 

[NoMayo15]

Sounds like a deep explanation of God lol



Oh yeaaaa.... The problems with the environment are because of people praying

And how does increased destroying of the earth and the environment around you that will affect the people around you and the people after you not part of the discussion of morality?

Because you're not discussing how that compares to the past. I don't disagree that there are apathetic people today... but so what? You haven't come close to making a thoughtful argument about this.

 

[Everythingg]

If time didn't exist before that event, then there is no BEFORE. There can't be a cause for something that happens at the same time as time itself. But yes, you can invoke whatever imaginary thing to say caused it as you'd like.

How does time just randomly start?

Who says writings and pictures don't count as proof? You?

YOU DO. Since you say that the bible itself is not proof that the God of Abraham exists. Therefore writings are not proof.

Anybody can draw a picture and say "this is (insert name)". Look at what they do with Jesus

How do you know?

I know the God I worship.

Okay well lets talk about sanctioned slavery in the bible. Go.

And what does this have to do with christianity?

 

[Everythingg]

Because you're not discussing how that compares to the past.

Do I need to? Or does the fact that we destroy the earth daily by the way of factories, cars, trains, airplanes, ships, oil spills, ineffective waste disposal etc... comes out to being LESS than what our ancestors from hundreds of years ago did? (For the record the last two may not be daily but the effect of one mistake can bring a negative effect daily)

I don't disagree that there are apathetic people today... but so what? You haven't come close to making a thoughtful argument about this.

I actually have. You're just not following

 

[NoMayo15]

How does time just randomly start?

I don't know. Seems to me that time is a function of the universe. That's like asking how does gravity work? The question is what makes you think the alternative to intelligent designed is random?

YOU DO. Since you say that the bible itself is not proof that the God of Abraham exists. Therefore writings are not proof.

No, I didn't. You obviously don't understand the difference between contemporary writings and the hearsay which I object to. Obviously the Bible is no more proof than any holy book is proof that it's claims are valid. I don't know how you can't understand this basic difference. There's a reason historians don't accept the miracles in the bible as true, but accept Washington was the first US President. SMH.

I know the God I worship.

What does that mean?! He told you he wrote the ten commandments?

And what does this have to do with christianity?

What is your position on the biblical stance on slavery, and why? Or first, why don't you explain what the bible says about slavery.

 

[Everythingg]

I don't know. Seems to me that time is a function of the universe. That's like asking how does gravity work? The question is what makes you think the alternative to intelligent designed is random?

There has to be a "before" before the beginning of the universe. Look at my example of particles bashing together to create the big bang. Did the particles not have to exist before they bashed together?

And thats the only alternative. Either it was FIXED and DESIGNED to be this way by the Creator, or it happened by chance.

No, I didn't. You obviously don't understand the difference between contemporary writings and the hearsay which I object to. Obviously the Bible is no more proof than any holy book is proof that it's claims are valid. I don't know how you can't understand this basic difference. There's a reason historians don't accept the miracles in the bible as true, but accept Washington was the first US President. SMH.

Whats contemporary writings? Sounds like more writings to me which doesnt point to proof. I mean anyone can write something down and said someone else said it right?

What does that mean?! He told you he wrote the ten commandments?

Yes.

What is your position on the biblical stance on slavery, and why? Or first, why don't you explain what the bible says about slavery.

What does that have to do with christianity? Heres what you said

No, you said you can demonstrate what you've said about Christianity is true. Do it. What do you believe, and why?

So why are you now asking me about slavery which has nothing to do with christianity?

 

[Yungin]

I swear back when Family Guy was the shyt I always wanted them to do a sketch with Jesus and Mary Magdalene and then outta nowhere Project Pat, Juicy J, DJ Paul, and the Disciples pop up tryna stop Jesus singing



lol, King Leopold got more bodies than Truman got from the Atom Bomb and Hitler got off the Holocaust. Humans ain't seein God when it comes to this gangsta shyt. God the thurlest cac in human history.

 

[NoMayo15]

There has to be a "before" before the beginning of the universe. Look at my example of particles bashing together to create the big bang. Did the particles not have to exist before they bashed together?

You just don't understand the science of this.

And thats the only alternative. Either it was FIXED and DESIGNED to be this way by the Creator, or it happened by chance.

Well no, the actual tautology is either it was designed by intelligence or not designed by intelligence. There's a difference between that and what you said.

Whats contemporary writings? Sounds like more writings to me which doesnt point to proof. I mean anyone can write something down and said someone else said it right?

Right, which is what makes me wonder why you believe the things attributed to Jesus are things he actually said. Contemporary means occuring at the same time these men lived. We have letters that we can confirm Washington wrote and historical documents we can confirm he signed. Plus there are writings from historians and other people who knew him that wrote about him. Mountains of evidence confirming his life. There is nothing like that for Jesus. All we have is scripture, which we think was written at least several decades after his supposed death, that are reports of what people say he said and did. What we have is stories about stories. And any child who has ever played the game Telephone can tell you that a sentence often will be misheard when it goes through the filter of different people.

Yes. What does that have to do with christianity?

 

[ill]

There has to be a "before" before the beginning of the universe. Look at my example of particles bashing together to create the big bang. Did the particles not have to exist before they bashed together?

And thats the only alternative. Either it was FIXED and DESIGNED to be this way by the Creator, or it happened by chance.

Time is a man made concept. The universe doesn't know what time is. There does not have to be a "birth" of the universe. The universe could have always been there. Energy is neither created nor destroyed therefore it is a more than fair assumption that everything in this universe has always been there. "God" did not have to start things. The Big Bang did not have to start things. It could very possibly have always been there. There are more possibilities than your black/white view.

 

[Blackking]

There is nothing like that for Jesus. All we have is scripture, which we think was written at least several decades after his supposed death, that are reports of what people say he said and did.

there are nonbiblical accounts of Jesus.

 

[NoMayo15]

there are nonbiblical accounts of Jesus.

True, but again, they are not contemporary. They are stories well after the death of Jesus. Hearsay.

Again, this isn't to say the entire stories are true or false. But we have much more evidence to think most things written about the first President are true than we do for most things written about Jesus.