Glaring black female hypocrisy on IR/LGBT representation.

[Supper]

Good topic. People think I'm a feminist and I kiss black female Ass but I just like to point out shytty logic and hypocrisy.

Good points, actual logic, and an actual attempt to have a dialogue gets rep from me

Yeah, I kind of have the same problem. Some people don't understand how I could make a thread like this one min. and then make a comment like this the next min.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/27582764/

Or this
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/27584953/

Now, I'm not going to claim to be %100 unbiased, but I do try to call out the fukkery when I see it. No matter who it comes from.

 

[The_Truth]

BW are openly hypocritical. They don't give a fukk how obvious they are.

 

[Lifejennings]

The arguments that you made in the OP are nonsensical. The average black woman or man cannot "push" for anything to be on media. We don't control the media.

 

[Supper]

The arguments that you made in the OP are nonsensical. The average black woman or man cannot "push" for anything to be on media. We don't control the media.

Average black women working collectively(which is quite easy in the age of social media), absolutely can celebrate, share, endorse, and patronize works based on a specific content. Now how much influence that has when compared to the people who actually create, distribute, fund, and showcase these works is up for debate. But, it does have SOME influence, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion because it(black women's support) would've gone completely unnoticed.

Also, don't you find it kind of ironic that you're saying this after just posting in a thread a black woman, Issa Rae, herself who wrote, produced, and directed a show set to be shown on hbo showcasing black male lgbt that's receiving backlash to which one of her fellow actresses Amanda Seales responded on her behalf, which also went viral.

I just want to know why all of that effort from black women is being directed to pushing for more black FEMALE lgbt, who have no significant representation in film, and against black female heterosexual interracial relations with white men, which are OVER represented in film, and reinforces white male patriarchal hegemony.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

Wait is this @Supper from nairaland Supper's Posts
I remember the name from back then, .....but don't recall many interactions with dude tho.
@Diasporan Royalty ?

 

[Supper]

Wait is this @Supper from nairaland Supper's Posts
I remember the name from back then, .....but don't recall many interactions with dude tho.
@Diasporan Royalty ?

lol Who were you expecting, Tiny Tim?

 

[Majestic]

Very good thread

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

lol Who were you expecting, Tiny Tim?

Actually my expectations were nil.
You put more effort into your post/process than 75% of TLR which caused me to think back to nairaland culture boards.
I could actually have long drawn out exchanges there. While the fukkery here(TLR) is "fun", I don't see many thorough exchanges

EDIT: to be fair TLR is B.S./fukkery central so....

 

[MajorVitaman]

The arguments that you made in the OP are nonsensical. The average black woman or man cannot "push" for anything to be on media. We don't control the media.

so you admit all this media is mostly white male owned? if white men control and own the media who do you think this propaganda benefits?

 

[Lifejennings]

Average black women working collectively(which is quiet easy in the age of social media), absolutely can celebrate, share, endorse, and patronize works based on a specific content. Now how much influence that has when compared to the people who actually create, distribute, fund, and showcase these works is up for debate. But, it does have SOME influence, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion because it(black women's support) would've gone completely unnoticed.

Also, don't you find it kind of ironic that you're saying this after just posting in a thread a black woman, Issa Rae, herself who wrote, produced, and directed a show set to be shown on hbo showcasing black male lgbt that's receiving backlash to which one of her fellow actresses Amanda Seales responded on her behalf, which also went viral.

I just want to know why all of that effort from black women is being directed to pushing for more black FEMALE lgbt, who have no significant representation in film, and against black female heterosexual interracial relations with white men, which are OVER represented, and reinforce white male patriarchal hegemony.

You're incorrect in the last paragraph. Orange Is The New Black features several black lesbian characters. It's one of the most popular shows out there.
www.afterellen.com/tv/415975-17-important-black-bilesbian-tv-characters

www.afterellen.com/tv/531569-15-black-lesbianbisexual-characters-love

You're positioning your argument from a faulty premise.

If we used threads made on the Coli to determine societal importance/influence then we'd incorrectly assume that black women marry out more compared to black women as those threads far outnumber the opposite. Using it as a barometer for that is nonsensical.

 

[Supper]

Actually my expectations were nil.
You put more effort into your post/process than 75% of TLR which caused me to think back to nairaland culture boards.
I could actually have long drawn out exchanges there. While the fukkery here(TLR) is "fun", I don't see many thorough exchanges

EDIT: to be fair TLR is B.S./fukkery central so....

Yeah, this is one of those high risk, high reward subs given how much traffic flows through here, so I figured I leave it here and just report the trolls who attempt to derail it.

 

[Lifejennings]

so you admit all this media is mostly white male owned? if white men control and own the media who do you think this propaganda benefits?

What is there to admit? We all know that whites control the media. Whether or not it can be considered propaganda is what is up for debate. A question that should be asked also is if visual media is propaganda why isn't musical media also considered propaganda. The vast majority of Coli posters dismiss this in @PhonZhi threads.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

nice thread OP

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I gotta hand it to you. THIS I didn't know. Still I can't overlook the amount of support from African-American women that they receive.

(I wonder if you ladies take guy's like Tommy Sotomayor's Panamanian heritage into account when citing him as a representative of black/AA men lol)



lol I'm almost tempted to start quoting and tagging black female users from the other thread who were very ardent in their attacks and shaming of black men as homophobic for not supposedly not supporting black male lgbt in films enough. One even went as far as saying that this is the reason black men deserved to be called the "white people of the black community" meanwhile that same chick is an apologist for white males and white male patriarchal hegemony in the form of heterosexual BW/WM representation in film.






Maybe I should present the question a different way.

If you had to, just for the sake of discussion, theorize a reason as to why hetero IRBW in film is so over represented while hetero IRBM is under represented what would it be, IYO?

if anything GAY nikkas are the white men of the Black community if we're talking economics. they make just as much as their white, straight counterparts

Unmasking Black Gay Privilege | HuffPost

 

[Supper]

You're incorrect in the last paragraph. Orange Is The New Black features several black lesbian characters. It's one of the most popular shows out there.
www.afterellen.com/tv/415975-17-important-black-bilesbian-tv-characters

www.afterellen.com/tv/531569-15-black-lesbianbisexual-characters-love

You're positioning your argument from a faulty premise.

Maybe so, but you still have yet to expose it if am mistaken, because a just a "black lesbian character" is not what I specified when I mentioned lack of black female lgbt representation in the OP.

Where are they to push for non-heterosexual black female protagonist in any major(as in blockbuster for theater) movie or TV production? Because as far as I can tell there are none.

I'm going to assume you misread what I said and aren't just gaslighting for the sake of being contrary. So, if you can find me an example of black female lgbt that satisfies those criteria I would appreciate it. The only one of that list that even comes close to satisfying that criteria is the Pariah movie which came out in 2011, was an independent film, and certainly was not a blockbuster(was only played in 11 theaters throughout the entire country). And Bessie was a biopic, not an original character. Why have we had no real major black female lgbt protagonist since then.

Why do these black female lgbt activist, not have a problem with this lack of bf lgbt representation, yet want to shame us for not accepting black male lgbt, when it's already over represented in media in comparison to their tiny population?

If we used threads made on the Coli to determine societal importance/influence then we'd incorrectly assume that black women marry out more compared to black women as those threads far outnumber the opposite. Using it as a barometer for that is nonsensical.

I've already stated that I'm using what black women who are visual and vocal about media representation are saying. I obviously am not speaking to the black women who aren't engaged or invested in this issue.